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  Msg # 4430 of 4489 on FFIDOS91, Friday 4-09-26, 6:06  
  From: NICK BOEL  
  To: MIKE POWELL  
  Subj: Re: Origin lines and klud  
  Gecko/20100101Thunderbird/140.9.0  
  Hey Mike!  
    
  On Thu, Apr 09 2026 10:31:27 -0500, you wrote:  
    
  > Yeah, I assumed that "post" meant posts "on the bbs" but maybe it  
  > only means posts that hpt originates.  
    
  I don't believe hpt knows anything about any BBS. It only knows the message  
  areas that it is configured to. "hpt post" is a command that can be used to  
  post messages from text files directly into your defined areas. I'm fairly  
  certain that is what it is referring to there.  
    
  > I also assumed that the last else below, since it has no module  
  > specified, would cover it:  
    
  > if "[module]"=="hpt" Origin High Portable Tosser at Project  
  > Scorpio elseif "[module]"=="htick" Origin High Portable Ticker at  
  > Project Scorpio else Origin Project Scorpio TEST endif  
    
  hpt and htick are two "modules" of the husky project (hpt for messages,  
  htick for files). Both of those modules can post directly to a message base  
  (ie: "hpt post" and "htick announce").  
    
  > I know squish for DOS and OS/2 had an Origin line setting, but I am  
  > not sure if my systems were ever envoking it since the shim program  
  > usually added one before it got to squish. Crashmail 2 also has one  
  > but I don't know in what instances it applies it.  
    
  > I am pretty sure that, for synchronet, sbbsecho adds the origin as  
  > part of exporting the messages. I have never noticed my own origin  
  > line showing up locally on local posts. That said, based on past  
  > conversations in FIDOTEST, I am pretty certain the BBS software  
  > should add it (along with several of the kludges) and not count on  
  > the tosser to pick up any slack.  
    
  I can see a benefit of the tosser being able to pick up the slack, though.  
  Many older BBS softwares don't support many kludges that are in use today.  
  If the tosser could supply those, I definitely wouldn't be opposed to that.  
  But yes, IMO, whatever is being used to write the message to a message base  
  (not including external editors; but what the external editor is being  
  called from, instead). I'm sure there are plenty of examples where that is  
  not the case, though.  
    
  I don't think you ever see a tear/origin line of a message posted locally  
  with Synchronet. I believe the message is stored in your message base first  
  (without tear/origin), and those lines only get appended to the message  
  during the "sbbsecho" process (when it's processed to leave the system). I  
  found it wierd at first, and while it's still wierd, I've gotten used to  
  it. ;)  
    
  > Thanks!  
    
  Of course!  
    
  Regards,  
  Nick  
    
  ... Sarcasm, because beating people up is illegal.  
  --- SBBSecho 3.37-Linux  
   * Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)  
     

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