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  Msg # 24 of 99 on FLIVE130, Tuesday 10-29-12, 12:05  
  From: RICHARD WEBB  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: personal monitor mixing question  
  On Sun 2012-Oct-28 21:18, Marc Lewis writes:  
  ML> I can add a few comments here, Richard, as I work for Quantum  
  ML> Technologies, Inc. (parent company of Hear Technologies) as the  
  ML> technician/service manager.  
    
  ML> Hear Technologies makes the Hear Back personal monitoring  
  ML> system. The basic system consists of a Hub and from one to 8 Hear  
  ML> Back Mixers.  
    
  YEp knew you'd be able to throw out something relevant.  
    
  The product that generated the thread that spun me off on  
  this tangent as I think I noted is one that one could  
  control with an iPhone iPod or iPad.  
  I note one significant thing I'm curious about. YOu wrote:  
  ML> Each mixer (in its standard configuration from the factory) has 6  
  ML> individual and 1 stereo pair sets of controls plus a limiter  
  ML> control. It has 2 independent headphone outputs and 2 line  
  ML> level outputs (left - right) as well as a line level input.  
    
  ML> There is an optional modification offered where the mixer loses the  
  ML> Limiter and becomes a full 8 channels. The stereo 1-2 input becomes  
  ML> channel 1 and the limiter becomes channel 2; the rest of the  
  ML> channels remain unaffected.  
    
   I hope you folks recommend against that one, I can  
  understand offering it, but ... I never run headphone or  
  in-ear monitor (those little earbud) mixes without a  
  limiter. But then, to me that's a safety issue.  
    
  ML> In the service department I see lots of them (there are many tens of  
  ML> thousands out in the field.) The come from lots of  
  ML> churches, recording studios, educational institutions and  
  ML> individuals.  
    
  I'm curious how many of them you see where they've used that modification.  
    
  ML> Multimedia churches and recording studios comprise a large chunk of  
  ML> the client base, as do live performance sound reinforcement  
  ML> companies. They all seem to love the flexibility of letting  
  ML> individuals control what they hear in their own monitor mix, without  
  ML> having to have an additional person sitting FOH to try and  
  ML> "administer" the monitor mix. The compact in-ear headsets (ear  
  ML> buds) seem to be the favorite.  
    
  ML> The fact that all this is done over one cat 5 cable from the main  
  ML> mixer is a big plus.  
    
  OH yeah, it sure would be. See our recent thread on digital snake for  
  remote  
  truck .  
    
  ML> I'm going to defer to my colleague Charles Snoddy for further  
  ML> comment from the recording studio/performance standpoint... once he  
  ML> gets a few minutes in his crowded schedule to write his  
  ML> views.   
    
  Remember a lot of my work back in my live sound  
  reinforcement days was mixing monitors. I recall when I  
  first read the phrase "friends don't let friends mix  
  monitors." I've found though back when I was doing it that  
  performers who knew you were being diligent about getting  
  them what they needed to perform well did indeed thank you  
  for it. i actually enjoyed it more than not. When I didn't it was suually  
  working with less than professionals who  
  engaged in the volume wars all during the performance.  
    
  ML> Hopefully this will give you a little more understanding of the  
  ML> hardware end of at least the Hear Back version of the personal  
  ML> monitoring system.  
    
  I've sued one but only in the studio, and only in someone  
  else's. ONe time, and this was years ago, producing an  
  album project for some people who were less than  
  professional. I'm comfortable in my own skin getting a  
  blend of what I need to hear whether on stage or in the  
  studio, but my encounters with personal mixing stations were doing  
  producer/engineer, hence the other side of the glass.  
  MOst of the performers picked up on the concept and could  
  work with it, but one in particular couldn't quite wrap his  
  head around it. I finally hooked a paralleled set of cans  
  up, set his mix up and told him to leave it alone from that  
  point on so we could finish the foundation tracks .  
    
    
  Regards,  
   Richard  
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