On 10-16-10, EARL CROASMUN said to ROSS CASSELL:  
    
    
    
  ~>  TR> Richard Helm used to say some things to you about your mother that I  
  ~>  TR> didn't think were appropriate.  
    
    
  ~> You have shown him way too much compassion in that regard.  
  ~> Remember Sauer is known to celebrate the misfortunes, even deaths, of  
  ~> people that did not have his belief system.  
    
    
  EC>I agree with Tim, and took lots of flak when I said the same thing about  
  EC>comments that had been made to Mimi and Bob about their family members.  
    
    
  EC>It is tough to have any compassion for Sauer along these lines, given his  
  EC>history of publicly insulting his OWN family members (mainly a long  
  string  
  EC>of insults of his own father, but also sisters, aunts, uncles, and so  
  on).  
  EC>But this isn't really about compassion for him.  It is about innocent  
  EC>bystanders.  And I feel a great deal of compassion toward anyone who is  
  EC>related to him in any way.  
    
    
  It wasn't about Sauer himself so much, it was my own personal ethics. That  
  sort of attack is very low. I was sorry Richard took my objections to it the  
  way he did, but he posted some pretty nasty stuff to me over it. I didn't  
  respond to him any more.  
    
    
  Where I feel sorry for anyone who's a direct family member of Otto's, I feel  
  the greatest compassion for his mother. She must have come in for a great  
  deal  
  of verbal abuse over the years due to him.  
    
    
  I strongly suspect thats the reason he lived in Sheboygan, and his parents  
  lived far away from him. I'd have liked to have been a shadow in the room  
  when  
  he called his parents to tell them he was `coming home' after only 65 days  
  in  
  the Air Force. I'd bet money they told him in no uncertain terms that he  
  `ain't livin' here, buddy! Yer on yer own!'  
    
    
    
    
    
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