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  Msg # 22329 of 22404 on FRBER180, Tuesday 7-20-26, 12:15  
  From: THE NATURAL PHILOSOPHER  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: odd windowing issue (perl Tk)  
  On 20/07/2026 01:13, rbowman wrote:  
  > On Sun, 19 Jul 2026 20:31:38 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:  
  >  
  >> Pulse audio should have been a warning,. systemd is now here and we must  
  >> do all the work he was too lazy to do, to make it work...  
  >  
  > I'm not fond of PulseAudio and friends but systemd works.  
    
  Except when it does not.  
    
  Systemd depends on everyone rewriting init scripts to take into account  
  dependencies, which a simple serial loading of daemons by init, rendered  
  unnecessary.  
    
  Now Poettering and other onanists would argue that's not systemd's problem.  
  BUT it resulted in a huge amount of work to restore the stability of  
  systems that had been stable for years.  
    
  The same applies to logfiles.  
    
  When you fundamentally change the way the whole core system of daemons  
  are spawned and monitored, for the sake of shaving a few seconds off  
  boot times, it behoves you to pay attention to those daemons and either  
  rewrite them, or at least rewrite their initialisation and configuration  
  scripts.  
    
  And that applies to packages, or combinations of packages, that probably  
  haven't been touched in years.  
    
  --  
  "When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."  
    
  Josef Stalin  
    
    
    
  --- PyGate Linux v1.5.18  
   * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)  
     

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