From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos  
  From Address: will.dockery@gmail.com  
  Subject: Star Trek Into Darkness / notes before viewing  
    
  On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:08:04 AM UTC-4, Bast wrote:  
  > Will Dockery wrote:  
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  > > Star Trek Into Darkness / notes before viewing  
  >  
  > > Thinking of going to Star Trek- need to wait on Dollar Theater but  
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  > > curious 4 a look at it. More I see about the film the better it looks.  
  >  
  > > Much as I wanna I need to wait until Star Trek is affordable.  
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  > > Khan is the bad guy it is confirmed.  
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  > > If I can stand to wait that long...  
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  > > Read two reviews of it last night, both sides, one that hates the film  
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  > > and one that loves it... and they both make me want to go see Star  
  >  
  > > Trek. This is a Star Trek universe that comments on our modern times,  
  >  
  > > juts as Star Trek was always a mirror on our own society.  
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  > >  
  >  
  > > 1960s Star Trek echoed the Cold War and Vietnam, Klingons were Russians  
  >  
  > > and Romulans were kind of mysterious Viet Cong.  
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  > >  
  >  
  > > 1980s Star Trek saw the breakdown of the Klingons as we did with the  
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  > > USSR, and by next Generation we had a pretty peacefull Star Trek with  
  >  
  > > even Klingons as sort of friends... even one of the greatest characters  
  >  
  > > from that time, Worf, was Klingon.  
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  > > 2013 Star Trek echoes our times, and our recent past. And Khan is  
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  > > back... no replacing Ricardo Montalban though.  
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  > >  
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  > > "Come sit on my fine Corinthian Leather..."  
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  > > Was kind of relieved earlier when all reports said Khan would NOT be in  
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  > > the movie, had hoped they wouldn't try such a bone heaed move as try to  
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  > > remake Khan.  
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  > >  
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  > > The critic who loves the film compares the idea of a new Khan with the  
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  > > success of rebooting the Joker. I still see Jack Nicholson as the  
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  > > all-time Joker, and never saw that new Heath Ledger Joker yet. People  
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  > > say he made Joker great, but I have fixed ideas on who and what the  
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  > > Joker should be.  
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  > > The new actor "reinterpreted" Khan... made him "better". That will be a  
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  > > tough sell, I'll maybe have to just think of him as another character  
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  > > who happens to be named "Khan".  
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  > >  
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  > > But I will go in with an open mind, to follow Star Trek where it needs  
  >  
  > > to go. It is either remake the series for the new age or put it in the  
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  > > museums.  
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  > >  
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  > > Jeer if you need to, Trekies, if at all possible I'll be on board and  
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  > > trying to follow these new directions of Star Trek... if they will  
  >  
  > > allow me to.  
  >  
  > If you see "Jack Nicholson as the all-time Joker", and not Cesar  
  > Romero.......  
  >  
  > ....Go see 2013 star trek.  
    
  No, that doesn't directly relate, Batman TV to Star Trek, since what was  
  done  
  to the character of Batman many or most fans feel was turn the story into a  
  cheap, campy comedy.  
    
  It wasn't until 1989's Tim Burton version that many of the fans of the  
  "real"  
  Batman felt that the films got Batman and his milleu right.  
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