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   "Robin King"  wrote in message   
   news:zvIWk.41621$_Y1.33406@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...   
   > "Mike"  wrote in message   
   > news:cIFWk.682$QX3.494@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...   
   > You can't compare an injury to a personal   
   >> choice, at least not in any reasonable debate on the matter.  Few   
   > people   
   >> choose to be injured.  All fat adults choose to be fat.   
   >   
   >        That last statement is one of the stupidest things I've read   
   > on Usenet, and there is no lack of stupidity there.  Weight is more   
   > heritable than height, even when you consider adoptees.   
      
   Here we go.  It's not my fault I'm fat.  It's my genes' fault.  It's my   
   peers' fault.  It's my parents' fault.  It's McDonald's fault.  It's the   
   cable companies' fault for supplying hundreds of channels of 24/7   
   entertainment.  It's the evil conspiracy which forces me to stuff an endless   
   supply of twinkies into my mouth and sit my fat arse on the couch.   
      
   Yep, I suppose to someone who has to grease their doorjams it probably does   
   seem like a stupid statement.  But to those of us who have the good sense to   
   eat sensibly, exercise regularly, and generally live a healthly lifestyle   
   it's not stupid at all.  I guess it's just a matter of perspective, no?   
      
   > As far as blame   
   >> goes, an obese child might not be fully to blame for their   
   > situation, but at   
   >> some point an adult has to take responsibility for their own   
   > choices.   
   >   
   >        I refuse to take blame for something I have no control over.   
   > Will you take responsibility for your ignorance?  You have some   
   > control over that. If you ever decide to stop being lazy, I could post   
   > a reading list for you.   
      
   So you can convince me you have no control over how many twinkies you eat or   
   how much time you spend on the couch?  Oh yes, how igorant I must be not to   
   see that!  How blind I must be to the one real truth in life!   
      
   Yes, I really envy you.  I wish I had the willpower to just let myself go.   
   How stupid of me to spend my time preparing meals of legumes, fruits, nuts,   
   or vegetables when I can just stop by and get that Big Mac meal.  How dumb I   
   must be to waste my time taking a jog, riding a bike, or rollerblading   
   around the neighborhood when I could sit my arse on the couch and watch   
   reruns of Friends.   
      
   >   
   > That   
   >> also means the rest of society shouldn't be responsible to bear the   
   > burden   
   >> of those choices either.   
   >   
   >     Society bears the burden for all kinds of things that people   
   > risk.  Can you really live a risk-free life?   
      
   I didn't say risk, I said choices.  All of that fat must be clogging the   
   arteries of your brain and inhibiting your comprehension.  I know it must be   
   difficult, but try and keep up.  Risk involves chance and can be mitigated   
   or balanced.  There is no chance that eating too much high calorie foods and   
   sitting on your arse all day will not make you fat.  The results are   
   guaranteed.  It's cause and effect.  Risk has nothing to do with it.   
      
   If you want to be fat, more power to you.  I could care less really what you   
   choose to do with your life one way or another.  I could also care less if   
   you've managed to convince yourself that it's not your fault you eat too   
   much and are sedentary.  In fact, I don't even want to try and discourage   
   you from trying to convince me or anyone else.  I find the attempt quite   
   amusing.  By all means continue.  I can always use the entertainment.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)