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   On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:59:01 -0800 (PST), Ragnar   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Nov 25, 12:59 pm, Joe <> wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:54:14 -0800 (PST), Ragnar   
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   >>  wrote:   
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   >> >> >> >         What has this to do with fat women?   
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   >> >> >> > Robin   
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   >> >> >> Fat women are ugly.   
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   >> >> >Opinion noted. I guess the factual info must still be forthcoming.   
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   >> >> >Ragnar   
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   >> >> How many Miss Americas have benn 300 pounders?   
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   >> >> Joe   
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   >> >So only Miss America contestants are attractive? Miss America   
   >> >contestants represent a very limited example of the physical female   
   >> >form. If you will notice aside from facial features they are all   
   >> >pretty much physical copies of each other. In reality the female as   
   >> >well as male body comes is a wide variety of sizes and shapes. The   
   >> >physical diversity exhibited by Miss America contestants does not   
   >> >represent an actual true to life cross section of the actual   
   >> >population. Therefore are you saying that if one does not fit the Miss   
   >> >America mold they are not attractive? If so, I pity your limited view   
   >> >of the world and the people around you.   
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   >> >Ragnar   
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   >> How many of the Hollywood starlets cast in romantic roles are 300   
   >> pounders.?   
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   >> Joe   
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   >Are all your concepts of beauty predicated on what the media elite   
   >claims it should be? Don’t feel bad if that is the case because   
   >millions of people need to be programmed on how to think and feel   
   >because they can’t do it for themselves. But the bottom line is that   
   >Hollywood is not the real world and their version of how people should   
   >look, feel and act is based entirely on fantasy entertainment.   
   >The truth of the matter is that people of all sizes and shapes are   
   >attracted to each other, fall in love and experience romance everyday.   
   >And what is represented on mainstream film hardly reflects every   
   >aspect of human attraction and individual taste. If you think that it   
   >based on anything other than what I mentioned then you are you are   
   >really naive and out of touch with reality.   
   >   
   >Ragnar   
      
   You have it backwards, Ragnar.  The Hollywood media does not create   
   the demands for young, shapely, pretty women.  The demand exists and   
   the mainstream  media services that demand.   
      
   Not all of the media exploits the demand for young, shapely, pretty   
   woman.  There ia aslo a very limited number of media outlets that meet   
   demands for other  female types.  For example  there are magazines who   
   showcase extremely fat females with a body of fat rolls.  Some of them   
   service the relatively small number of men with a Oedipus complex who   
   had obese mothers.   
      
   Then there are the gay publications and movies.  They are not in the   
   business of changing men from straight to gay.  They recognize that   
   there is an exiting demand for magazines about  gay people and they   
   strive to meet that demand.   
      
   As you have alluded, there are people who do not adhere to what is the   
   norms for most.  We have men who pursue ugly fat women.  They can be   
   various reasons why they are so driven.   
      
   And then we have the men who are not at all  attracted to members of   
   the opposite gender .   
      
   Joe   
      
      
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