XPost: soc.support.fat-acceptance, rec.travel.air, rec.aviation.piloting   
   From: tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam   
      
   On Fri, 28 Nov 2008, Maxwell wrote:   
      
   > | 1) If the employees are being treated so badly, they can always quit.   
   >   
   > They do. Their turn over rate is as great as just about anyone.   
      
   Then there is no problem   
      
   > | 2) The reason Walmart can underprice the competition is that they were   
   > | good capitalists, doing exactly what they should do.  They purchase a LOT   
   > | of stuff, allowing the creator of those goods to charge less and still   
   > | make money.   
   >   
   > And that would be a good thing if they were purchasing good created by there   
   > customers, but they don't . They exploit workers half-a-world away, because   
   > they are desparate and will/can work for 10 cents on the dollar.   
      
   So what?  Half way around the world, 10 cents on the dollar is a damn good   
   wage.  In the semiconductor industry, engineers in India cost 1/10th those   
   in the USA.  While this may sound like those engineers are getting ripped   
   off, the is that the standard of living is that much lower then in the   
   USA.   
      
   Ever wonder why the Christian Children's Fund can do all that fantastic   
   work in Africa with the cost of only a morning coffee?  It's because over   
   there, 62 cents is worth a hell of a lot more there relative to local   
   conditions.  Feel free to thank organized labor for making those manual   
   labor jobs go over seas, because the jobs really are worth LESS then   
   minimum wage.   
      
   > | 3) Consumers have the right to shop at any store they want.   
   >   
   > Indeed they do, and Wal-Mart capitalizes on their ignorance to the fact,   
   > that by buying foreign goods, they are destroying their own future ability   
   > to earn a living.   
      
   The Lucky Charms I buy at Albertsons are the same Lucky Charms I buy at   
   Wal-Mart.  The Sony 52 inch HDTV I buy at Best Buy is the same Sony 52   
   inch HDTV I buy at Wal-Mart.  The name brands are made in the same factory   
   no matter what store you purchase them at.   
      
   Your only argument would therefore be in reference to the "off-brand" or   
   "generic" products sold at Wal-Mart.  Those products, often times of   
   piss-poor quality, are for people who can't afford the "good stuff" and   
   would have otherwise gone without.   
      
   Yes, Wal-Mart sells a $20,00 digital camera.  I bought one for my youngest   
   son this year, now in the second grade.  I tested it out, and the quality   
   was shit.  Couldn't take a good picture at all.  95% of them were solid   
   red, the 5% that actually did come out were so grainy you couldn't tell   
   what it was you took a picture of.  Needless to say, I got my money back,   
   and my son still doesn't have a digital camera.   
      
   If Nikon made a $20.00 camera, I might think about getting it.  But then   
   again, I don't believe Nikon is made in the USA anyhow.   
      
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