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|    Jewbee to All    |
|    The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fa    |
|    11 Sep 17 10:21:02    |
      XPost: aus.religion.islam, sac.sports, oh.news       XPost: austin.politics       From: jewbee@nytimes.com              The news that Jorg Haider - the Austrian fascist leader - spent       his final few hours in a gay bar with a hot blond has shocked       some people. It hasn’t shocked me. This is a taboo topic for a       gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a       weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and       fascism. Take a deep breath; here goes.              Some 10,000 gay people were slaughtered in the Nazi death-camps.       Many more were humiliated, jailed, deported, ethnically       cleansed, or castrated. One gay survivor of the camps, LD       Classen von Neudegg, has written about his experiences. A       snapshot: “Three men had tried to escape one night. They were       captured, and when they returned they had the word ‘homo’       scrawled across their clothing. They were placed on a block and       whipped. Then they were forced to beat a drum and cheer,       ‘Hurrah! We’re back! Hurrah!’ Then they were hanged.” This is       one of the milder events documented in his book.              So the idea of a gay fascist seems ridiculous. Yet when the       British National Party - our own home-grown Holocaust-denying       bigots - announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in       the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism       didn’t blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the       heart of every major fascist movement that ever was - including       the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of       Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe       in the past thirty years have been gay. It’s time to admit       something. Fascism isn’t something that happens out there, a       nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is - in part, at       least - a gay thing, and it’s time for non-fascist gay people to       wake up and face the marching music.              Just look at our own continent over the past decade. Dutch       fascist Pim Fortuyn ran on blatantly racist anti-immigrant       platform, describing Islam as “a cancer” and “the biggest threat       to Western civilisation today.” Yet with two little fluffy dogs       and a Mamma complex, he was openly, flamboyantly gay. When       accused by a political opponent of hating Arabs, he replied,       “How can I hate Arabs? I sucked one off last night.”              Jorg Haider blasted Austria’s cosy post-Nazi politics to rubble       in 2000 when his neo-fascist ‘Freedom Party’ won a quarter of       the vote and joined the country’s government as a coalition       partner. Several facts always cropped up in the international       press coverage: his square jaw, his muscled torso, his SS-       supporting father, his rabid anti-Semitism, his hatred of       immigrants, his description of Auschwitz and Dachau as       “punishment centres”. A few newspapers mentioned that he is       always surrounded by fit, fanatical young men. A handful went       further and pointed out that several of these young men are       openly gay. Then one left-wing German paper broke the story       everybody else was hinting at. They alleged Haider is gay.              Rumours of an Indian waiter with “intimate details” of Haider’s       body broke into the press. The Freedom Party’s general manager       Gerald Miscka quickly quit, amid accusations that he was       Haider’s lover. Haider’s close gay friend Walter Kohler - who       has been photographed showing off a holstered pistol while       Haider chuckled - declared his opposition to outing politicians.       Haider - who was married and has two children - kept quiet while       his functionaries denied the rumours. The revelation that he       died after leaving a gay bar suggests these rumours were true.                     On and on it goes. If you inter-railed across Europe, only       stopping with gay fascists, there aren’t many sights you’d miss.       France’s leading post-war fascist was Edouard Pfieffer, who was       not batting for the straight side. Germany’s leading neo-Nazi       all through the eighties was called Michael Kuhnen; he died of       AIDS in 1991 a few years after coming out. Martin Lee, author of       a study of European fascism, explains, “For Kuhnen, there was       something supermacho about being a Nazi, as well as being a       homosexual, both of which enforced his sense of living on the       edge, of belonging to an elite that was destined to make an       impact. He told a West German journalist that homosexuals were       ‘especially well-suited for our task, because they do not want       ties to wife, children and family.’”              And it wouldn’t be long before your whistlestop tour arrived in       Britain. At first glance, our Nazis seem militantly straight.       They have tried to disrupt gay parades, describe gay people as       “evil”, and BNP leader Nick Griffin reacted charmingly to the       bombing of the Admiral Duncan pub in 1999 with a column saying,       “The TV footage of gay demonstrators [outside the scene of       carnage] flaunting their perversion in front of the world’s       journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these       creatures repulsive.”              But scratch to homophobic surface and there’s a spandex swastika       underneath. In 1999, Martin Webster, a former National Front       organiser and head honcho in the British fascist movement, wrote       a four-page pamphlet detailing his ‘affair’ with Nick Griffin.       “Griffin sought out intimate relations with me,” openly-gay       Webster explained, “in the late 1970s. He was twenty years       younger than me.” Ray Hill, who infiltrated the British fascist       movement for twelve years to gather information for anti-fascist       groups, says it’s all too plausible. Homosexuality is “extremely       prevalent” in the upper echelons of the British far right, and       at one stage in the 1980s nearly half of the movement’s       organisers were gay, he claims.              Gerry Gable, editor of the anti-fascist magazine ‘Searchlight’,       explains, “I have looked at Britain’s Nazi groups for decades       and this homophobic hypocrisy has been there all the time. I       cannot think of any organisation on the extreme right that       hasn’t attacked people on the grounds of their sexual preference       and at the same time contained many gay officers and activists.”              Griffins’ alleged gay affair would stand in a long British       fascist tradition. The leader of the skinhead movement all       through the 1970s was a crazed, muscled thug called Nicky Crane.       He was the icon of a reactionary backlash against immigrants,       feminism and the ‘hippy’ lifetsyle of the 1960s. His movement’s       emphasis on conformity to a shaven, dehumanised norm resembled       classical fascist movements; Crane soon became a campaigner and       leading figure in the National Front. Oh, and he was gay. Before       he died of AIDS in the mid-1980s, Crane came out and admitted he       had starred in many gay porn videos. Just before he died in       1986, he was allowed to steward a Gay Pride march in London,       even though he still said he was “proud to be a fascist.”              The rubber-soled friction between gay fascists and progressive       British gay people sparked into anger in 1985 when the Gay       Skinhead Movement organised a disco at London’s Gay Centre.       Several lesbians in particular objected to the “invasion” of the       centre. They felt that the cult of “real men” and hypermasculine              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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