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   Anonymous Remailer to xanadu222_@mchsi.com   
   Re: The faith that gave birth to toleran   
   18 Nov 08 18:34:55   
   
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   From: mixmaster@gpftor3.privacyfoundation.de   
      
   In article <51h4i4d3es5vrga9sut1jdshdbtn0nmr6c@4ax.com>   
   "(¯`·.¸  Craig Chilt•n  ¸.·´¯) •• NO FACTS Support RRR Cult's   
   Hate-Agendas! •• "  wrote:   
   >   
   > On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:53:43 +0100 (CET),   
   > George Orwell  PARROTED:   
   >   
   >   
   > >     How did America go from Pilgrims seeking freedom to express   
   > > their Judeo-Christian beliefs to today’s discrimination against   
   > > those very beliefs in the name of tolerance? “Back Fired”   
   > > chronicles the history of this disturbing development now   
   > > rampant in our country.   
   >   
   >       There's NOTHING disturbing about defending the very sep-   
   > arationof church and state that i what led those folks to the New   
   > World almost 300 years ago in the first place, and which has   
   > been HIGHLY instrumental in keeping the country free of tyranny   
   > ever since.   
      
   You fags would prefer that the church vanish completely.  Not   
   going to happen.  Take a good look at history, you faggots have   
   been steamrolled by religion all through history and it's not   
   going to change now - or ever.   
      
   > >       Do these headlines sound familiar?   
   > >   
   > >    Ten Commandments taken down.   
   > >    Nativity Scenes banned   
   > >    Christmas Carols stopped   
   >   
   >    When displayed/done on PUBLIC land and in PUBLIC buildings,   
   > they are tantamount to the ENDOREMENT of the Judeo-Christian   
   > religion, and that is unconstitutional.  When displayed on PRIVATE   
   > land and buildings, NO one could ever oppose them.  Even if pre-   
   > sented in 1/10th of all private locations, it would be pretty much   
   > impossible to be out of sight (or earshot) of several of them from   
   > one moment to the next, in any populated area.  So OBVIOUSLY,   
   > the enforcement of the separation of church and state is doing   
   > absolutely NO harm.   
      
   I guess you're better get off your ass and get it taken off all   
   the U.S. currency then, hadn't you?   
      
   > >   “Under God” removed from the Pledge   
   >   
   >     It was never IN the Pledge for longer than it HAS been in it.   
   > I remember when, as a school kid, I first started having to say   
   > it that way, in 1954.  It made the Pledge sound stilted and   
   > awkward then, and still does to this day, to millions who   
   > remember saying it in its original form for several years. AS a   
   > very blatant endorsement of religion, it doesn't belong there.   
   > Just as "In God We Trust" should never have been put onto the   
   > currency and coins of this MULTI-cultural country.  It does NOT   
   > speak for 50 million Americans -- 17% of the population.  And if   
   > someone tries to claim that the majority rules, they need to   
   > remember that when it comes to RIGHTS, the majority has OFTEN   
   > been wrong.  (E.g., the South prior to 1865 and 1965, regarding   
   > slavery and segregation, respectively; society prior to women's   
   > suffrage; California since 11-4-08, when it became "The BIGOTRY   
   > State.")   
      
   America was a better place when far less people shared your   
   beliefs.  It was a mistake to bring American hating refugees   
   into this country.  It was a bigger mistake to open the   
   universities to enemies of America.   
      
   > >    Prayer prohibited   
   >   
   >     It's not "prohibited," per se.  People have ALWAYS been able   
   > to pray silently and privately (as the Bible happens to direct), no   
   > matter WHERE they are, and in the case of public and induced   
   > praying, on ANY private land or building, and in any church. That   
   > covers about 95% of possible venues.  Imposing prayer in PUBLIC   
   > venues is an obvious and uncalled-for endorsement of a religion.   
      
   Ah, but you're wrong.  Atheist faggots have fought tooth and   
   nail to ban prayer in schools, courts, sporting events,   
   scouting, the military, etc.   
      
   > >   Salvation Army defunded   
   >   
   >     It IS a church, and as such is not eligible for PUBLIC funds.   
   > But just like all other churches, there is NOTHING that keeps them   
   > from being funded privately.   
      
   But it's okay if the "public" gives them money "privately"?  You   
   hypocrit faggots sure don't turn down their assistance when   
   you're sick, broke, homeless and dying of some incurable fag   
   contracted disease.   
      
   > >    Boy Scouts sued   
   >   
   >     See the reasons WHY.   
      
   They don't like faggots.  That's reason enough.   
      
   > >    Bible called ‘hate speech"   
   >   
   >     When wielded as a WEAPON against people's personal liberties,   
   > that is ABUSIVE imposition of religion upon them.  E.g., inciting   
   > hatefulness and bigotry toward gays, even though in reality, the   
   > sexual orientations are merely variations of NORMALCY, just like   
   > handedness, race, and eye color.  Just as inciting to riot is a   
   > forbidden abuse of freedom of speech... and shouting "FIRE!" in   
   > a crowded theater is -- SO should incitement to DISCRIMINATE be.   
   > And many countries are very properly taking note of that.   
      
   Keep in mind that Bible toters are generally very peaceful until   
   you piss them off.  After they've had enough, they generally go   
   on a rampage and kill everything that offends them.  They always   
   win.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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