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   (¯`·.¸ Craig Chilt•n ¸.·´¯) •• NO F to mixmaster@gpftor3.privacyfoundation   
   Re: The faith that gave birth to toleran   
   18 Nov 08 18:24:49   
   
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   From: xanadu222_@mchsi.com   
      
   On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:34:55 +0100,   
   Craven COWARD, "Anonymous Remailer"   
    wrote:   
   >  (¯`·.¸  Craig Chilt•n  ¸.·´¯) •• NO FACTS Support RRR Cult's   
   >  Hate-Agendas! ••  wrote:   
   >> George Orwell  PARROTED:   
      
      
   >>>     How did America go from Pilgrims seeking freedom to express   
   >>> their Judeo-Christian beliefs to today’s discrimination against   
   >>> those very beliefs in the name of tolerance? “Back Fired”   
   >>> chronicles the history of this disturbing development now   
   >>> rampant in our country.   
      
   >>       There's NOTHING disturbing about defending the very sep-   
   >> arationof church and state that i what led those folks to the New   
   >> World almost 300 years ago in the first place, and which has   
   >> been HIGHLY instrumental in keeping the country free of tyranny   
   >> ever since.   
      
   >    You [gays] ...   
      
        I am an egalitarian, straight ALLY of the Gay Community in its   
   quest for across-the-board EQUAL rights, in Civil Rights Movement II.   
      
   >   ... would prefer that the church vanish completely.   
      
        No, they don't.  In fact, a significant percentage of them are   
   Christians.  (Not the PSEUDO-Christian, hateful bigots of the RRR   
   Cult.)  I'm sure that ALL gays probably wish that the mindless   
   bigots out there would GROW UP.   
      
   >    Not going to happen.   
      
        True.  But their hateful AGENDA soon *will* become EXTINCT.   
      
   >      Take a good look at history.   
      
       Okay.  Gladly!!   
      
      Society ALWAYS outgrows intolerant and hateful movements   
   that are mired in stupidity, and are supported by NO relevant   
   facts.  ALWAYS.  No exceptions!  And our own history, here   
   in the USA, makes that very clear.  Since 1865 ---   
      
       --  Slavery				--  EXTINCT   
       --  Opposition to Women's Suffrage	--  EXTINCT   
       --  Prohibition				--  EXTINCT   
       --  Opposition to Birth-Control Pill	--  EXTINCT   
       --  Segregation			--  EXTINCT   
       --  Anti-Semitism   	      -- ENDANGERED (Thankfully)   
       --  Anti-Choice (abortion)  -- LAUGHINGSTOCK STATUS   
       --  Opposition to EQUAL Rights for Gays -- FADING FAST   
      
      Segregationists were a JOKE (i.e., "laughingstock status")   
   during the last few years before it became extinct.  As opposition   
   to EQUAL rights for gays (with respect to housing, being parents,   
   marriage, and employment) continues to fade, the remaining   
   opponents first will become laughingstocks, and then that   
   hatefulness will end in extinction.  constant consciousness-raising,   
   as is being assisted by the media in its sitcoms, talk shows, etc., is   
   very helpful.   
      
       The ludicrous and hateful actions and defense of sociopathic   
   agendas against individual liberties on the part of the adherents/   
   lemmings of the RRR Cult will soon lead to American society's   
   becoming EMBARRASSED to have those louts in their midst,   
   making our country a laughingstock in front of the entire world.   
   Even now, the process of their becoming FED UP with that is   
   building toward the critical mass that will trigger the *rejection*   
   of the RRR's **shameful** and worthless agendas.  Before much   
   longer, society will reject those movements with all the force that   
   it brought to bear against segregation.   
      
       Historical precedents have CONSISTENTLY proven that   
   Americans **outgrow* movements of intolerance (such as ALL   
   of the above), and then REJECT them -- leaving them behind   
   FOREVER.   
      
      And *that* is EXTINCTION.   
      
      Very WELCOME extinction.  As in, "Good riddance forever!"   
      
   >   ... [the gays] have been steamrolled by religion...   
      
       No.  They's simply been harassed by a collection if bone-   
   IGNORANT louts who have LIED about being religious.   
      
   >    ... all through history and it's not going to change now - or ever.   
      
       Man,, are YOU ever wrong.  See above.  A few years from now,   
   society will remember losers like you and LAUGH at you.   
      
   >>>       Do these headlines sound familiar?   
   >>>   
   >>>    Ten Commandments taken down.   
   >>>    Nativity Scenes banned   
   >>>    Christmas Carols stopped   
      
   >>    When displayed/done on PUBLIC land and in PUBLIC buildings,   
   >> they are tantamount to the ENDOREMENT of the Judeo-Christian   
   >> religion, and that is unconstitutional.  When displayed on PRIVATE   
   >> land and buildings, NO one could ever oppose them.  Even if pre-   
   >> sented in 1/10th of all private locations, it would be pretty much   
   >> impossible to be out of sight (or earshot) of several of them from   
   >> one moment to the next, in any populated area.  So OBVIOUSLY,   
   >> the enforcement of the separation of church and state is doing   
   >> absolutely NO harm.   
      
   >      I guess you're better get off your ass and get it taken off all   
   > the U.S. currency then, hadn't you?   
      
        It'll happen. Probably via a sensible decision by an astute U.S.   
   Supreme Court.   
      
   >>>   “Under God” removed from the Pledge   
   >   
   >>     It was never IN the Pledge for longer than it HAS been in it.   
   >> I remember when, as a school kid, I first started having to say   
   >> it that way, in 1954.  It made the Pledge sound stilted and   
   >> awkward then, and still does to this day, to millions who   
   >> remember saying it in its original form for several years. AS a   
   >> very blatant endorsement of religion, it doesn't belong there.   
   >> Just as "In God We Trust" should never have been put onto the   
   >> currency and coins of this MULTI-cultural country.  It does NOT   
   >> speak for 50 million Americans -- 17% of the population.  And if   
   >> someone tries to claim that the majority rules, they need to   
   >> remember that when it comes to RIGHTS, the majority has OFTEN   
   >> been wrong.  (E.g., the South prior to 1865 and 1965, regarding   
   >> slavery and segregation, respectively; society prior to women's   
   >> suffrage; California since 11-4-08, when it became "The BIGOTRY   
   >> State.")   
      
   >     America was a better place when far less people shared your   
   > beliefs.   
      
        Actually, the MORE people come to see things this SENSIBLY, the   
   BETTER America will be.   
      
   >    It was a mistake to bring American hating refugees into this country.   
   > It was a bigger mistake to open the universities to enemies of America.   
      
       LOL!!!!  (The LUDICROUS whining of a MINDLESS bigot.)   
      
   >>>    Prayer prohibited   
      
   >>     It's not "prohibited," per se.  People have ALWAYS been able   
   >> to pray silently and privately (as the Bible happens to direct), no   
   >> matter WHERE they are, and in the case of public and induced   
   >> praying, on ANY private land or building, and in any church. That   
   >> covers about 95% of possible venues.  Imposing prayer in PUBLIC   
   >> venues is an obvious and uncalled-for endorsement of a religion.   
      
      
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