From: mung_me@att.net   
      
   On 3/15/2012 8:17 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:   
   > On 3/15/12 1:58 PM, j wrote:   
   >> I did a little looking around at eCat and found some conception pics of   
   >> what an eCat would look like for home application. I also found a COOP   
   >> of 6 listed.   
   >>   
   >> It appears that although the eCat is rated in kW, that this is kW of   
   >> heat.   
   >   
   > I'm guessing that you probably wouldn't want it as gamma rays. There may   
   > be a potload of beta particles being produced inside the containment   
   > vessel, which might allow eventual direct extraction of electrical   
   > energy - but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that.   
   >   
   > Heat is good.   
   >   
   >> Anyone have any idea how eCat intends to use the heat generated?   
   >   
   > For sake of accuracy, the E-Cat only /makes/ (not uses) heat. Rossi   
   > started out focused on commercial power generation, and has become   
   > distracted by the notion of selling brazillions of space heaters.   
   >   
   Ahhh. And what fabulous space heaters they are. And domestic hot water.   
      
   I'm intrigued by the COP of 6. That implies to me that there is some   
   energy that must be expended to keep it running. I don't think this is   
   the heater, it seems to me that there must be some pump that pulses  the   
   hydrogen to create very high pressures. Otherwise this would be   
   completely self sustaining and have a COP closer to infinity.   
      
   I can see this as a sandwich of ultrasonic transducers creating high   
   pressure waves in the hydrogen gas. In fact there are lots of ways to   
   have local high pressure points in acoustic devices.   
      
   All this is mere conjecture.   
      
   > He may suffer from ADOS syndrome, like a lot of the rest of us.   
      
   That, is a new light on the subject!   
      
   >   
   >> Apparently this can be up to the melting point of nickel. But what   
   >> working fluid?   
   >   
   > If you can prevent the nickel from puddling, it can probably go a lot   
   > higher than that - I'll hazard a guess that Rossi will aim for an   
   > operating temperature safely below the boiling point of water.   
      
   I would think the fail safe for coolant loss is when the machine melts   
   into a puddle!   
      
      Jeff   
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