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   On 5/24/2012 6:42 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   > "mike"  wrote in message   
   > news:jpmltk$cnc$1@dont-email.me...   
   >> On 5/24/2012 3:47 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   >>> ...   
   >>> If you are on a home-experimenter budget with old surplus   
   >>> equipment,   
   >>> accurate AC power measurement is quite a challenge.   
   >>   
   >> My point is that it IS NOT difficult at all.   
   >> IN the US, there's a wattmeter at the utility entrance.   
   >> OR   
   >> A $20 KillAWatt meter will do pretty well for AC powered stuff.   
   >> You can measure output power with a resistor, thermometer, stopwatch   
   >> and a pound of water.   
   >   
   > I'm not convinced that a KAW reads correctly on the output of a UPS or   
   > inverter.   
   Ok, so who said to power it with an inverter?  Try sinewave outa the   
   wall socket.   
   Yes, you can conceive a load crest factor that makes it inaccurate.   
   But it's a moot point.  The output is gonna be WAY bigger than the input   
   power for any useful free energy device.  Your biggest problem is to   
   moderate that infinite energy.   
      
   It's a diversion, but any device that fools the energy company into   
   billing you for less has value too...until they catch you.   
      
   Same problem I have with Rossi.  If it works, you won't need a generator   
   the size of a boxcar and high accuracy measurement tools.  Just measure   
   how long it takes to boil a quantity of water and show that it's WAY   
   more energy than you put in.  If it's a maze of pipes in a box inside a   
   boxcar beside   
   a generator behind a curtain, it's a scam.   
   >   
   > My utility meter records 7.2 Watt-Hours per disk rotation. It's the   
   > value stamped in the 'Kh" box.   
      
   Mine puts out  infrared pulses watts=3600*Freq.  But you'd need to spend   
   a quarter on a garage-sale PalmIII to read it.   
   >   
   > jsw   
   >   
   One more time...a WORKING free-energy device is gonna be EASY to verify.   
   You'll probably have the fire department as witness.   
      
   And if it turns out that you were mistaken and your device did follow   
   the known   
   laws of physics, you'd have the AEC, NRC, Hazmat and homeland   
   security as witness.   
   >   
   It's not rocket surgery, it's snake oil.   
      
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