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|    Re: 'Energy saver' power factoring?    |
|    28 May 12 22:47:30    |
      From: Impedance@UgotOCD.invalid              Yes but it was written up in journals back in the 1970s in many magazines       when triacs were first invented.              -----------              "mike" wrote in message news:jpfb5d$2n5$1@dont-email.me...              On 5/21/2012 9:12 PM, Mho wrote:       > Not quite true.       >       > The way I understand these boxes is they lower the voltage to motors       > running at bad power factors. A synchronous motor then has to pull more       > current at the lower voltage to produce the same HP and the phase angle       > of the load now becomes closer to unity pf. While that may, in itself       > affect the power showing up in a residential kWh meter the motor runs       > cooler and the loss of energy due to motor heat is reduced. Efficiency       > of the motor is increased and real power is decreased. Residential bill       > payers can benefit but I suspect it isn't very much difference.       >       > I have never actually experimented with one on accurate metering devices..       >       > ------------       > "Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:jpb7cl$3k8$1@dont-email.me...       > It could save money for a commercial user but not a residence, because       > the metering methods are different.       > http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/power-supplies/199479-do-domest       c-kwh-meters-ordinary-electric-meters-record-reactive-power.html       >       >       > jsw       >       >       Got any references in support of your creative analysis?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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