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   From: turnkey4099@hotmail.com   
      
   On Sep 6, 7:24 pm, mike  wrote:   
   > On 9/6/2012 4:50 AM, News wrote:   
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   > > "mike"  wrote in message   
   > >news:k28r5c$rm8$1@dont-email.me...   
   > >> On 9/5/2012 4:09 PM, News wrote:   
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   > >>> "John"  wrote in message   
   > >>>news:BYqdndDnNOuZ0Z_NnZ2dnUVZ8jidnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...   
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   > >>>> I am thinking of setting up a bike trainer to a alternator to generate   
   > >>>> electricity. Can anyone tell me if you can get bike trainers,   
   > >>>> alternatiors mains grid tie in inverters etc as a pre-built package   
   > >>>> from any place? Or alternatively if you wanted to do this yourself DIY   
   > >>>> on the cheap, does anyone have any links to plans and parts, and also   
   > >>>> ideas on costs? I believe I can get an inverter quite cheaply here in   
   > >>>> the UK, so that just leaves bike trainer and alternator.   
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   > >>> It is best to heat a small electric immersion element in a hot water   
   > >>> cylinder. Pedal power will not produce that much electricity. Hot water   
   > >>> is needed all year around.   
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   > >> Do you think about what you wrote before you press the send key?   
   > >> Please show the math supporting your assertion. Don't even try to   
   > >> explain the absurdity of the whole concept...just the math.   
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   > > The maths do not matter. He has an exercise bike with a generator on it.   
   > > It heats a small electric immersion heater in a water cylinder. He is   
   > > producing energy which is stored and used as hot water in the house. It   
   > > will not supply the house for sure, only adding to the heat in the   
   > > cylinder.....but the energy is NOT wasted. Even if the cylinder is up to   
   > > temp at say 60C the immersion will still add heat to the water mass.   
   > > Note my reference to the electric treadmills.   
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   > > Do keep up.   
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   > The math is ALL that matters.   
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   > You're saying that not much electricity can be produced, but that same   
   > not much electricity is best used to heat not much water???   
   > If you were really interested in hot water or efficiency,   
   > you'd use a more efficient process that did not involve the   
   > useless conversion to electricity to heat the water.   
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   > Even better, eat less and take the money you saved on the food that you   
   > didn't need to supply the pedal power and use it to buy electricity.   
      
   He could even use the money saved at the local mortuary to get a brain   
   that works better than his current one.   
      
   Harry K   
      
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