From: spamme9@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/6/2012 4:50 AM, News wrote:   
   >   
   > "mike"  wrote in message   
   > news:k28r5c$rm8$1@dont-email.me...   
   >> On 9/5/2012 4:09 PM, News wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> "John"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:BYqdndDnNOuZ0Z_NnZ2dnUVZ8jidnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...   
   >>>   
   >>>> I am thinking of setting up a bike trainer to a alternator to generate   
   >>>> electricity. Can anyone tell me if you can get bike trainers,   
   >>>> alternatiors mains grid tie in inverters etc as a pre-built package   
   >>>> from any place? Or alternatively if you wanted to do this yourself DIY   
   >>>> on the cheap, does anyone have any links to plans and parts, and also   
   >>>> ideas on costs? I believe I can get an inverter quite cheaply here in   
   >>>> the UK, so that just leaves bike trainer and alternator.   
   >>>   
   >>> It is best to heat a small electric immersion element in a hot water   
   >>> cylinder. Pedal power will not produce that much electricity. Hot water   
   >>> is needed all year around.   
   >>   
   >> Do you think about what you wrote before you press the send key?   
   >> Please show the math supporting your assertion. Don't even try to   
   >> explain the absurdity of the whole concept...just the math.   
   >   
   > The maths do not matter. He has an exercise bike with a generator on it.   
   > It heats a small electric immersion heater in a water cylinder. He is   
   > producing energy which is stored and used as hot water in the house. It   
   > will not supply the house for sure, only adding to the heat in the   
   > cylinder.....but the energy is NOT wasted. Even if the cylinder is up to   
   > temp at say 60C the immersion will still add heat to the water mass.   
   > Note my reference to the electric treadmills.   
   >   
   > Do keep up.   
   The math is ALL that matters.   
      
   You're saying that not much electricity can be produced, but that same   
   not much electricity is best used to heat not much water???   
   If you were really interested in hot water or efficiency,   
   you'd use a more efficient process that did not involve the   
   useless conversion to electricity to heat the water.   
      
   Even better, eat less and take the money you saved on the food that you   
   didn't need to supply the pedal power and use it to buy electricity.   
      
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