From: bobnospam@gmail.com   
      
   mike wrote:   
   > On 9/6/2012 4:50 AM, News wrote:   
   >>   
   >> "mike"  wrote in message   
   >> news:k28r5c$rm8$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>> On 9/5/2012 4:09 PM, News wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "John"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:BYqdndDnNOuZ0Z_NnZ2dnUVZ8jidnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I am thinking of setting up a bike trainer to a alternator to   
   >>>>> generate electricity. Can anyone tell me if you can get bike   
   >>>>> trainers, alternatiors mains grid tie in inverters etc as a   
   >>>>> pre-built package from any place? Or alternatively if you wanted   
   >>>>> to do this yourself DIY on the cheap, does anyone have any links   
   >>>>> to plans and parts, and also ideas on costs? I believe I can get   
   >>>>> an inverter quite cheaply here in the UK, so that just leaves   
   >>>>> bike trainer and alternator.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It is best to heat a small electric immersion element in a hot   
   >>>> water cylinder. Pedal power will not produce that much   
   >>>> electricity. Hot water is needed all year around.   
   >>>   
   >>> Do you think about what you wrote before you press the send key?   
   >>> Please show the math supporting your assertion. Don't even try to   
   >>> explain the absurdity of the whole concept...just the math.   
   >>   
   >> The maths do not matter. He has an exercise bike with a generator on   
   >> it. It heats a small electric immersion heater in a water cylinder.   
   >> He is producing energy which is stored and used as hot water in the   
   >> house. It will not supply the house for sure, only adding to the   
   >> heat in the cylinder.....but the energy is NOT wasted. Even if the   
   >> cylinder is up to temp at say 60C the immersion will still add heat   
   >> to the water mass. Note my reference to the electric treadmills.   
   >>   
   >> Do keep up.   
   > The math is ALL that matters.   
   >   
   > You're saying that not much electricity can be produced, but that same   
   > not much electricity is best used to heat not much water???   
   > If you were really interested in hot water or efficiency,   
   > you'd use a more efficient process that did not involve the   
   > useless conversion to electricity to heat the water.   
   >   
   > Even better, eat less and take the money you saved on the food that   
   > you didn't need to supply the pedal power and use it to buy   
   > electricity.   
      
   All my non-motorized exercise equipment converts my exertions to heat with high   
   efficiency, which helps keep my house warm. No water needed. Q.E.D.   
      
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