From: ham789@netzero.net   
      
   On 11/27/2012 8:57 AM, Jim Rojas wrote:   
   > mike wrote:   
   >> On 11/27/2012 7:34 AM, amdx wrote:   
   >>> On 11/26/2012 4:11 PM, mike wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/26/2012 9:00 AM, amdx wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/25/2012 6:56 PM, Jim Rojas wrote:   
   >>>>>> amdx wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/22/2012 12:40 PM, Jim Rojas wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> My electric bill use to be $250 a month on regular months, and   
   >>>>>>>> $400 a   
   >>>>>>>> month during the hot summer season in Florida. Forget buyback   
   >>>>>>>> meters to   
   >>>>>>>> sell back to the grid...a big waste of time and money. Be glad to   
   >>>>>>>> reduce   
   >>>>>>>> your bill. I now pay on average $60 a month.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Using 3 months at $400 and 9 months at $250 that equals $3,450 per   
   >>>>>>> year, that you use to use. Now you use $60 x 12 months or $720   
   >>>>>>> dollars.   
   >>>>>>> The difference is $2,730.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So you use $720 to create $2,730 worth of electricity.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Forget filtering a pool, I just want to create $2730 with $720.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Mikek   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Las Vegas is a good place to start... :)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Where did my understanding of your results get distorted?   
   >>>>> Mikek   
   >>>> You're good...   
   >>>> He never posted ANY results.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not sure I understand your comment. He said his electric bill was cut   
   >>> from $250 or more to an average $60. That's a result.   
   >>> Mikek   
   >>   
   >> You wanna nit-pick. OK, bring it.   
   >> We have a vaguely described setup.   
   >> We have vaguely described numbers from the utility bill.   
   >> The "experiment" is undocumented and uncontrolled.   
   >>   
   >> And the result is that it transcends conservation of energy.   
   >>   
   >> That's a "result" worthy of a Nobel Prize, patents worth zillions   
   >> of  and at least 70 virgins.   
   >>   
   >> Yet "endless questions" go unanswered.   
   >>   
   >> You turn off everything in the house except the pool pump.   
   >> You watch the dial on the utility meter go around to calculate   
   >> power consumed.   
   >>   
   >> You hook a hot-plate to the generator output and see how long   
   >> it takes to boil away a pint of water. A little math later   
   >> and you've real data that's easy to replicate experimentally for   
   >> your Nobel Prize submission.   
   >>   
   >> You drive your water-powered-car down to the patent office   
   >> and file a patent.   
   >>   
   >> The pool filter industry would explode overnight, so you'd want   
   >> to buy a lot of stock first.   
   >>   
   >> It's not rocket surgery.   
   >> It's merely a new branch of physics.   
   >> Let's do this!!   
   >> I'll bring the hot-plate and the stopwatch and the patent   
   >> application and the 70 virgins. He's already got the water.   
   >   
   > How easily some people get defensive...   
   >   
   > I did not know I was required to post a energy chart verified by 3   
   > independent certified energy consultants before I can post anything   
   > here...I will strive to do better in my next lifetime... :)   
   >   
   > In the meantime...chill out.   
   >   
   That's cool. You built some yard-art powered by your pool.   
   And you dramatically decreased your electricity demand by other means.   
   Coulda led with that in a yard-art group instead of:   
      
   "My system uses running water to provide the DC power"   
      
   in a homepower group thread about inverters.   
      
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