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   amdx to mike   
   Re: Inexpensive 24 or 48 volt inverters   
   27 Nov 12 17:07:36   
   
   From: amdx@knologynotthis.net   
      
   On 11/27/2012 10:40 AM, mike wrote:   
   > On 11/27/2012 7:34 AM, amdx wrote:   
   >> On 11/26/2012 4:11 PM, mike wrote:   
   >>> On 11/26/2012 9:00 AM, amdx wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/25/2012 6:56 PM, Jim Rojas wrote:   
   >>>>> amdx wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 11/22/2012 12:40 PM, Jim Rojas wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> My electric bill use to be $250 a month on regular months, and   
   >>>>>>> $400 a   
   >>>>>>> month during the hot summer season in Florida. Forget buyback   
   >>>>>>> meters to   
   >>>>>>> sell back to the grid...a big waste of time and money. Be glad to   
   >>>>>>> reduce   
   >>>>>>> your bill. I now pay on average $60 a month.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Using 3 months at $400 and 9 months at $250 that equals $3,450 per   
   >>>>>> year, that you use to use. Now you use $60 x 12 months or $720   
   >>>>>> dollars.   
   >>>>>> The difference is $2,730.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So you use $720 to create $2,730 worth of electricity.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Forget filtering a pool, I just want to create $2730 with $720.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Mikek   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Las Vegas is a good place to start... :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Where did my understanding of your results get distorted?   
   >>>> Mikek   
   >>> You're good...   
   >>> He never posted ANY results.   
   >>   
   >> Not sure I understand your comment. He said his electric bill was cut   
   >> from $250 or more to an average $60. That's a result.   
   >> Mikek   
   >   
   > You wanna nit-pick.  OK, bring it.   
   > We have a vaguely described setup.   
   > We have vaguely described numbers from the utility bill.   
   > The "experiment" is undocumented and uncontrolled.   
   >   
   > And the result is that it transcends conservation of energy.   
   >   
   > That's a "result" worthy of a Nobel Prize, patents worth zillions   
   > of  and at least 70 virgins.   
   >   
   > Yet "endless questions" go unanswered.   
   >   
   > You turn off everything in the house except the pool pump.   
   > You watch the dial on the utility meter go around to calculate   
   > power consumed.   
   >   
   > You hook a hot-plate to the generator output and see how long   
   > it takes to boil away a pint of water.  A little math later   
   > and you've real data that's easy to replicate experimentally for   
   > your Nobel Prize submission.   
   >   
   > You drive your water-powered-car down to the patent office   
   > and file a patent.   
   >   
   > The pool filter industry would explode overnight, so you'd want   
   > to buy a lot of stock first.   
   >   
   > It's not rocket surgery.   
   > It's merely a new branch of physics.   
   > Let's do this!!   
   > I'll bring the hot-plate and the stopwatch and the patent   
   > application and the 70 virgins.  He's already got the water.   
      
      Oh, you thought I believed he created $2,730 worth of electricity   
   with $720? Nah, just trying to draw him out, and he came though with at   
   least 6 other changes.   
                                  Mikek   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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