XPost: talk.politics.guns, sci.energy   
   From: JW@jw.com   
      
   On 9/27/2021 9:02 PM, Dechucka wrote:   
   > On 28/09/2021 11:13 am, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >> On 9/27/2021 4:11 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   >>> "Just Wondering"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:Ssq4J.17545$IO1.13914@fx19.iad...   
   >>>   
   >>> On 9/27/2021 2:15 PM, Dechucka wrote:   
   >>>> On 28/09/2021 5:57 am, contact wrote:   
   >>>>> When the wind stops blowing, the electricity stops flowing!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Interesting my house is totally solar and I have power at night. Go   
   >>>> figure   
   >>>   
   >>> We all figure that either "my house is totally solar" or "I have   
   >>> power at night" is a lie, because they can't both be true.   
      
   >>> "Totally solar" is a "black box" model which means that solar is your   
   >>> only source of electricity, it can include storage batteries to   
   >>> postpone the use of that electricity.   
   >>>   
   >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box   
   >>   
   >> Storage batteries = NOT "totally solar".  Storage batteries =   
   >> chemical energy -> electrical energy.  They don't postpone   
   >> the use of solar energy, they use electrical energy which can   
   >> be from any source to make a chemical reaction.  When you use   
   >> a battery, another chemical reaction that results in the release   
   >> of electrical energy.  None of those processes involve solar   
   >> energy.   
   >   
   > Except for the charging part in my case   
      
   It sounds like you use electricity from photovoltaic cells during   
   the day to charge your batteries.  You then use electricity from   
   discharging your batteries when solar energy is not available.   
   That latter use is chemical energy, not solar energy.   
      
   Read my other posts on this subject. If you want to play the game   
   of "my batteries are stored solar power", then every bloody energy   
   source on the planet, from horse-drawn carts to burning wood or   
   ethanol or coal to wind and hydro power to nuclear power is also   
   stored solar power.   
      
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