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   Message 2,353 of 2,576   
   Scout to Jim Wilkins   
   Re: Wind Solar unreliable compared to Ga   
   28 Sep 21 09:53:02   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns, sci.energy   
   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Jim Wilkins"  wrote in message   
   news:sitfja$nb7$1@dont-email.me...   
   > "Just Wondering"  wrote in message news:Ssq4J.17545$IO1.13914@fx19.iad...   
   >   
   > On 9/27/2021 2:15 PM, Dechucka wrote:   
   >> On 28/09/2021 5:57 am, contact wrote:   
   >>> When the wind stops blowing, the electricity stops flowing!   
   >>   
   >> Interesting my house is totally solar and I have power at night. Go   
   >> figure   
   >   
   > We all figure that either "my house is totally solar" or "I have   
   > power at night" is a lie, because they can't both be true.   
   >   
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   >   
   > "Totally solar" is a "black box" model which means that solar is your only   
   > source of electricity, it can include storage batteries to postpone the   
   > use of that electricity.   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box   
      
   Average consumption 30 kilowatthours (kWh).   
      
   Figure 16 hours of storage as a bare minimum   
      
   100Ahr battery = 600 wh   
      
   Minimum required 40 batteries.   
      
   Cost about $8000 just for the batteries.   
      
   Another $14,000 for the solar system   
      
   Figure about $15,000 for installation.   
      
   More for the lost floor space, or building to hold all this.   
      
   And that only gets you through the day. If you don't have 8 hours of full   
   charge... overcast, raining, snow, etc then your battery capacity   
   requirements will go up drastically,.   
      
   Then we need to calculate the pollution produced for all that hardware, the   
   regular replacement of the batteries, panels and systems over a lifetime and   
   then figure out if you're actually cutting emissions... or just spreading it   
   around.   
      
   Seems to me to be a lot of money and issues for a dubious reduction in   
   pollution.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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