XPost: talk.politics.guns, sci.energy   
   From: bobnospam@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/27/2021 11:56 PM, Just Wondering wrote:   
   > On 9/27/2021 8:30 PM, Bob F wrote:   
   >> On 9/27/2021 6:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >>> On 9/27/2021 5:00 PM, Bob F wrote:   
   >>>> On 9/27/2021 2:12 PM, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >>>>> On 9/27/2021 2:15 PM, Dechucka wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 28/09/2021 5:57 am, contact wrote:   
   >>>>>>> When the wind stops blowing, the electricity stops flowing!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Interesting my house is totally solar and I have power at night.   
   >>>>>> Go figure   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> We all figure that either "my house is totally solar" or "I have   
   >>>>> power at night" is a lie, because they can't both be true.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, we do not.   
   >>>> Yes, they can.   
   >>>   
   >>> Explain how you get totally solar energy when the sun   
   >>> is below the horizon.   
   >>   
   >> I don't need to play your word games. The energy is solar, with some   
   >> stored in batteries for later use. It is not hydro, it is not fossil   
   >> fuel, it is solar.   
   >   
   > You could use excess solar power during the day to pump water into an   
   > uphill pond and use a water-powered generator at night.  We can and do   
   > use solar energy to grow trees and such that can be burned to power   
   > electric generators.  Fossil fuel is just wood that has been stored a   
   > very long time before we burn it to release the stored solar power.   
   >   
   > It's not a word game.  Energy stored in batteries literally is   
   > not solar energy even if electricity generated from solar panels   
   > is used to charge the batteries.  If you're going to play THAT   
   > word game, quite literally every energy source in use is stored   
   > solar energy.  If that's the game you want to play, hydro power   
   > is stored solar power.  Wind power is stored solar power,  Energy   
   > from burning any sort of fuel is stored solar power.  Muscle power   
   > is stored solar power.  Geothermal is stored solar power.  Even   
   > nuclear is stored solar power.  So if THAT's how you play the   
   > game, every house on the planet is totally solar.   
      
   The significant issue is that the solar house with batteries is getting   
   its energy from the sun, not from fossil fuel, reducing it's damage to   
   the climate from CO2 releases. If it charged the batteries from a coal   
   power plant, that would not be the case.   
      
   A solar heated house stores thermal energy in thermal mass for use   
   overnight. A solar powered house can similarly store energy in electric   
   batteries, or flywheels. They are both solar.   
      
   But of course, common sense seems to mean nothing to you. You just have   
   to be "right".   
      
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