XPost: talk.politics.guns, sci.energy   
   From: JW@jw.com   
      
   On 9/28/2021 1:01 AM, Dechucka wrote:   
   > On 28/09/2021 4:56 pm, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >> On 9/27/2021 8:30 PM, Bob F wrote:   
   >>> On 9/27/2021 6:17 PM, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >>>> On 9/27/2021 5:00 PM, Bob F wrote:   
   >>>>> On 9/27/2021 2:12 PM, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 9/27/2021 2:15 PM, Dechucka wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 28/09/2021 5:57 am, contact wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> When the wind stops blowing, the electricity stops flowing!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Interesting my house is totally solar and I have power at night.   
   >>>>>>> Go figure   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> We all figure that either "my house is totally solar" or "I have   
   >>>>>> power at night" is a lie, because they can't both be true.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No, we do not.   
   >>>>> Yes, they can.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Explain how you get totally solar energy when the sun   
   >>>> is below the horizon.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't need to play your word games. The energy is solar, with some   
   >>> stored in batteries for later use. It is not hydro, it is not fossil   
   >>> fuel, it is solar.   
   >>   
   >> You could use excess solar power during the day to pump water into an   
   >> uphill pond and use a water-powered generator at night.   
   >   
   > Called pump hydro such a scheme is being built in the Snowys   
      
   If battery power is solar power, so is hydro power.  But neither   
   is what people mean when they say "solar power".   
   >   
   >  We can and do   
   >> use solar energy to grow trees and such that can be burned to power   
   >> electric generators.  Fossil fuel is just wood that has been stored a   
   >> very long time before we burn it to release the stored solar power.   
   >>   
   >> It's not a word game.  Energy stored in batteries literally is   
   >> not solar energy even if electricity generated from solar panels   
   >> is used to charge the batteries.  If you're going to play THAT   
   >> word game, quite literally every energy source in use is stored   
   >> solar energy.  If that's the game you want to play, hydro power   
   >> is stored solar power.  Wind power is stored solar power,  Energy   
   >> from burning any sort of fuel is stored solar power.  Muscle power   
   >> is stored solar power.  Geothermal is stored solar power.  Even   
   >> nuclear is stored solar power.  So if THAT's how you play the   
   >> game, every house on the planet is totally solar.   
   >   
   > So lets stick to the renewable forms of this solar energy as   
   > I'm doing with my solar powered farm   
      
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