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   eric gisse to Morris Dovey   
   Re: Oct 28th rossi 1 mw cold fusion test   
   30 Oct 11 10:54:41   
   
   XPost: sci.physics, alt.solar.thermal   
   From: jowr.pi.onspam@gmail.com   
      
   Morris Dovey  wrote in   
   news:j8iil4$g4g$4@speranza.aioe.org:   
      
   > On 10/29/11 9:06 AM, vaughn wrote:   
   >> "sno"  wrote in message   
   >> news:4eab8193$0$12949$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...   
   >>>   
   >>> Still looking good...   
   >>   
   >> I would love to believe.  Really I would!  But I don't.  At least,   
   >> not yet.   
   >>   
   >> Sorry, but I find this test (in which the system allegedly put out   
   >> 470KW whilst connected to an obviously running 500 KW generator) to   
   >> be spectacularly unconvincing.   
   >>   
   >> "Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually   
   >> running genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and   
   >> appears to have been connected by cables to the E-Cat. "Where's the   
   >> mystery?" So knock yourselves out, skeptics. It's the customer who   
   >> has to be happy, and apparently this one was satisfied that those   
   >> cables were not contributing to the 470 kW output during   
   >> self-sustaining mode."   
   >>   
   >> Surry, but the alleged happiness of some anonymous and possibly   
   >> fictional customer hardly constitutes proof of anything.   
   >>   
   >> Waiting for Morris's results...   
   >>   
   >> Vaughn   
   >   
   > [reading/posting @ alt.solar.thermal]   
   >   
   > I'm disappointed that Rossi did not present a demonstration adequate   
   > to convince all reasonable skeptics.   
   >   
   > I'm flattered that Vaughn might consider any result I might produce to   
   > be worth waiting for - but I think it'd be a GoodThing^TM if more   
   > people conducted their own tests and made their results public.   
   >   
   > My efforts are painfully slow. Nearly every aspect of this thing calls   
   > for knowledge and skills I don't have.   
   [...]   
      
   I don't know what your role is in all this, so I'll just proceed as if   
   you have one.   
      
   If convincing skeptics is the goal, have Rossi or someone else put an   
   inductive loop around the generator leads so the current can be known at   
   all times. Additionally, have a voltmeter hooked up physically so   
   voltage can be known at all times.   
      
   Then, P = IV.   
      
   If P_generator << P_blackbox then YHATZEE! People will take Rossi   
   marginally more seriously and then people like me won't be able to see   
   that the generator was running the whole time and be entirely right for   
   laughing at the scam.   
      
   I, however, expect P_generator ~ P_blackbox because it is my personal   
   opinion its' a long con designed to bilk money out of that investor   
   assuming he actually exists. If the investor doesn't exist, one will   
   soon.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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