XPost: sci.physics, alt.solar.thermal   
   From: vaughnsimon@gmail.invalid   
      
   "Morris Dovey"  wrote in message   
   news:j8ujm6$tpe$2@speranza.aioe.org...   
   > On 11/3/11 7:58 AM, vaughn wrote:   
   >   
   >> For me, the following quote from the article represents the bottom line:   
   "...   
   >> any extraordinary discovery requires extraordinary proof. ... the E-Cat must   
   >> be   
   >> verified by an independent study conducted by scientists who are allowed   
   >> access   
   >> to the machine's inner-workings."   
   >   
   > I must have a strange view of science - I'd be pretty happy with ordinary   
   > proof and I'd be even happier to know that Rossi's claimed results had been   
   > reproduced independently elsewhere on separate equipment - and I wouldn't   
   much   
   > care whether the folks who did that were scientists, engineers, or taxi   
   > drivers. :-)   
      
   OK, I take your point, but we are still a long way from that (lower) standard   
   of   
   proof; yet we don't need to be.  Rossi's stated excuse seems to be a desire to   
   protect his industrial secrets. He doesn't want to give others access to the   
   internals of his invention.  But once you sell the first unit of ANY new   
   technology, that information is potentially "out there".  The inventor must   
   choose between keeping his invention to himself forever, or marketing it and   
   depending on the patent system and our justice system to do its job.  Now that   
   he has supposedly started marketing his device, his stated objections quickly   
   begin to fail to hold water..   
      
   Going back to my example of the AirCar, we see exactly the same behavior.   
   Pleading protection of his "secrets" the "inventor" has consistently refused to   
   allow third-parties access to his prototypes to verify (or refute) his claims   
   for them.  Proving the claims for the AirCar would be as simple as handing a   
   set   
   of keys to a few reputable members of the media and letting them go for a ride,   
   yet it has never happened.     Guess why?   
      
   Vaughn  .   
      
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