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   Message 843 of 2,576   
   amdx to Morris Dovey   
   Re: 1kW $50 E-Cat ?   
   21 Jan 12 21:16:14   
   
   From: amdx@knologynotthis.net   
      
   On 1/21/2012 8:37 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:   
   > On 1/21/12 1:27 PM, amdx wrote:   
   >> Christopher Calder, who made a really significant suggestion. He wrote:   
   >>   
   >> “Could you produce a simple E-Cat space heater that anyone could plug   
   >> into a wall? Most current consumer electric space heaters are limited to   
   >> 1,500 watts, which is claimed to be enough to heat 1,000 square feet (93   
   >> square meters). Such a device would allow even very low income apartment   
   >> dwellers to immediately benefit from LENR technology. You could not   
   >> possibly manufacture enough portable heaters to keep up with worldwide   
   >> demand. Competition is only a problem if you run out of customers. The   
   >> E-Cat shortage will be the big problem making headlines.”   
   >>   
   >> Andrea Rossi is pleased with the suggestion. It is very simple yet   
   >> feasible and marketable. Rossi responded by saying: “Do you know? Yours   
   >> is a very good idea. We got to study it.”   
   >   
   > Mikek, have you ever tried to heat a cold space with a 1.5kW heater? I   
   > have a pair of ($35) 1.5kW electric heaters in my 800 ft^2 workshop and   
   > they aren't able to even take the edge off the cold...   
   >   
   > At $50 a pop, a 1kW heater might be a cheap nuke - but I don't think   
   > it's a good buy as a heater, and I'm pretty sure Rossi knows it.   
   >   
   > My biggest concern with such a heater (assuming it could be made to work   
   > at all) would be safety. Rossi has made statements that LENR   
   > consumer-grade appliances would be safe because, in a runaway scenario,   
   > the nickel powder would melt and the reaction would come to a halt   
   > (because of the reduction in surface area of the Ni/H interface).   
   >   
   > That it would come to a halt seems reasonable - but a quick Google   
   > search on 'nickel melting point' will reveal that can't happen until the   
   > reactor reaches a temperature above 2651°F/1453°C. Yikes!   
   >   
   > Cue discussion of fail safe designs... ;-)   
   >   
     Hi Morris,   
     800 sq ft is half the size of my house, the space heaters are   
   for a single 100 to 150 sq ft room.   
   There are plenty of 1000 to 1200 watt heaters on the market,   
   I think I have 4.   
      I think the safety release is the melting point of the lead shield.   
   But ya, let's see one working model on the market... Please!   
                            Mikek   
      
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