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   krw@attt.bizz to Andrew Gabriel   
   Re: I invented a 2-phase DC battery pack   
   03 Dec 13 20:07:10   
   
   XPost: alt.home.repair   
      
   On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 22:36:50 +0000 (UTC), andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk   
   (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:   
      
   >In article <529e37f2$0$46490$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>,   
   >	bud--  writes:   
   >> The context is, specifically, in US power distribution is a split-phase   
   >> supply called 2 phase with a phase A and phase B.   
   >>   
   >> (Not "2-phase", which as you say is rather different.)   
   >>   
   >> I don't think you have much split-phase over the pond.   
   >   
   >No. 240/480V was only used on farms in very remote areas,   
   >and there were probably no new installations of this type   
   >since WWII (and there maybe none left by now, having all   
   >been upgraded to 3-phase).   
   >   
   >It's not necessary elsewhere here because we run 230V 3-phase   
   >down each street, so houses which need more than 1 phase get   
   >a 3-phase 230/400V supply. (In reality, it's 240/415V for   
   >historical reasons.)   
      
   We run 3-phase down most streets, too.  In many places, each house has   
   its own transformer.  Three-phase makes distribution simpler but   
   split-phase gives the flexibility that you have, using more than one   
   phase, in a simpler manner.   
      
   >That doesn't work with the US 120/240V, because, to a first   
   >approximation, you can only carry it a quarter of the distance   
   >before the voltage regulation goes too bad (and the low power   
   >pole mount transformers actually make this much worse).   
      
   Irrelevant.   
      
   >This means you have to carry the high voltage supply down   
   >each street and use regularly spaced pole transformers to   
   >generate the 120/240V supplies. To keep costs down, there's   
   >usually only 1 of the 3 phases from the HV supply carried   
   >down each street, so you don't generally have access to a   
   >3-phase supply in any one residential street.   
      
   Wrong.  Except in rural areas, the 3-phase HV *is* distributed on each   
   street with, at most, a few houses on each transformer.  In rural   
   areas they may only have one phase on the pole but there is a   
   transformer there, too.   
      
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