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   Don Kelly to Salmon Egg   
   Re: Scalar Waves and Tesla   
   29 Dec 13 20:40:45   
   
   From: dhky@shaw.ca   
      
   On 29/12/2013 1:53 PM, Salmon Egg wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   >   "Shaun"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> If scalar waves were real don't you think that it would be recognized by   
   >> now, Tesla talked about this over 100 years ago; maybe he was describing an   
   >> effect that he observe that engineers call something else like standing   
   >> waves. Don't bother with pseudoscience - it will leads you nowhere. Often   
   >> pseudoscience works only in the mind of the inventor, they believe they have   
   >> discovered something new and because the believe in it their minds give them   
   >> positive results; the device works for them.  Modern science rules out stuff   
   >> like that so you will never be able to prove that your device works because   
   >> the start by doubting that it doesn't, doubt destroys belief.   
   >   
   > It has been a while since I looked at some of this in detail. The term   
   > "scalar wave" makes me think of a potential wave. In quantum mechanics,   
   > most of the formulations deal with potential energy. That gets involved   
   > with scalar and vector potentials. I am very rusty on these.   
   >   
   > My most recent dealings were with optical thin-films. They involved the   
   > use of TE and TM nonuniform plane waves of light normally incident upon   
   > a stack of thin-film layers. The longitudinal H and E field components   
   > respectively can be used as potentials. That is, if you know the values   
   > of the longitudinal H or E for a wave all the remaining vector   
   > components s in that wave can be calculated. Thus, the scalar that is   
   > this longitudinal H or E field component is like a scalar potential.   
   > That single component determines all the remaining vector components of   
   > that wave.   
   >   
   But one must recognize the period when Tesla gave out his ideas which   
   have had no evidence except that the genius went over the far side of   
   sanity barrier by the time that he  was doing the experiments.   
      
   I wish that the world would realize the real contributions that he made   
   rather than much that he  supposedly proposed in  his later years when,   
   evidence indicates paranoia and other problems.   
   The universal acceptance of the unit "Tesla"  and his polyphase machines   
   which, along  with Gaulard & Gibbs transformer made our present   
   electrical grid system feasible.   
      
   P.S.   
      
   "redbubble" seems to be proficient as a source of T shirts.   
   Why is this listed as a reference in  earlier messages/   
      
      
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