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|    tctomcosby@hotmail.com to BillyFish    |
|    Re: Transformer theory--THE ANSWER    |
|    22 Sep 14 08:25:36    |
      On Saturday, December 11, 1999 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, BillyFish wrote:       > Essentially, the following problem was posed on this newsgroup:       > ***************       > Consider a transformer wound on a large toroidal core using a high        > permeability material so that very little magnetic field is outside the       core.        > That is, there is little leakage reactance. Put a primary winding along a        > small length around the circumference of the core. Put a similar secondary        > winding on the diametrically opposite of the primary. Connect the primary       to        > a low impedance ac power source and the secondary to a variable resistance        > load. As the load resistance changes, current in the primary and secondary        > changes in such a way as to keep the flux in the core relatively constant.       >        > Using the Poynting theorem, for example, how does power get transferred from        > the primary to the secondary? The flux in the core is not greatly affected        > by the power. That flux is also longitudinal. There is no change in the E        > field. The same voltage is across each winding at low and high loads.       >        > Suppose you set up a plane symmetrically between the two winding cutting the        > core into two halves. If you integrate the Poynting vector over this plane,        > I do not see that the E x H to be very different for high and low resistive        > loads. There is no physical current flow across the plane other than        > displacement current.       > **********       > This problem vexed me. After I got up to go to the bathroom last night, I       > could not go back to sleep. I pondered the problem, and I believe I have the       > answer. It was partially formed in a conversation with someone who had some       > glimmerings but not the full insight. The description above is, not       > surprisingly, a *red herring*.       >        > One key to the problem is to realize that the leakage reactance of a       > transformer is *independent *of the core! The core increases the magnetizing       > inductance and coupling coefficient but has NO effect on the leakage       reactance.       > This is well known to designers of pulse transformers, for example. In       > equivalent circuit diagrams, current from the primary to the secondary       > transfers *through* the leakage reactance. Most transformer engineers do not       > think in terms of Poynting's theorem.       >        > In a transformer as described above, the main portions of the core, that are       > not covered by windings, act as two pole pieces. A magnetic field component       > fringes between them. It is driven by the bucking currents flowing in the       two       > windings producing an H field proportional to the ampere turns in each       winding.       > This H cannot be reduced by using a high permeability core material. The       core       > enables this leakage field to be distributed over a larger volume. Without       > this core, the leakage would be local to the individual windings. This H       field       > produced by opposing currents in the primary and secondary windings. It       > provides an H that can be crossed with an E field to give a power transfer       from       > primary to secondary.       >        > Where does the E field to do this come from? The magnetic field B through       the       > core is proportional to the voltage across the primary and secondary and 90       > degrees out of phase with this voltage. According to Faraday's law, this       flux       > produces an E field through the core hole proportional to the rate of change       of       > flux inside the core. Thus, this E field is proportional to the voltage in       > each winding and 90 degrees out of phase with the flux. The result is that       the       > transverse components of the E and H fields, for resistive loads, are in       phase       > and contribute to a real transfer of power from primary to secondary.       >        > I do not know if this description for energy transfer has ever been presented       > before.       >        > William Buchman              Tomtech,        Again I am moved to post hopefully helpful thoughts regarding this whole mess       of power transfer in the iron core transformer. Most of the older textbooks       that I and others have referred to do not emphatically state that power is       transferred via the iron        core from primary to secondary winding. It is inferred that the core       "conducts" energy to the secondary by using terms like "working flux" or "Main       flux". I think one thing that would put us all on the same page is having a       hard fast definition of the        various fluxes involved. The term "Leakage flux" is a misnomer from days when       it was thought that the flux actually "Leaked" from the iron core. I think it       should be known that leakage flux and stray flux are not necessarily the same.       I think it can be        said that all stray flux is leakage flux, but not all leakage flux is stray       flux. I think many find leakage flux to mean some aspect negative aspect of       transformer design. If indeed, the core conducts all energy to the secondary       winding, would it not        change amplitude when on load? Not a good argument, I realize a section of       wire can conduct many values of electric power at the same current value,if       the load impedance and sending voltage changes properly. Anyway, just thought       I would chime in, I will        try to keep my future postings to the point with text references, not just an       opinion................              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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