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   Message 1,385 of 2,548   
   Glen Walpert to Don Kelly   
   Re: Question about Whirlpool Washer Moto   
   24 Dec 14 19:08:20   
   
   From: nospam@null.void   
      
   On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:12:32 -0800, Don Kelly wrote:   
      
   > On 23/12/2014 3:15 PM, New Guy wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 06:43:32 +0800, Rheilly Phoull wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 23/12/14 11:22 PM, Paul Dudley wrote:   
   >>>>     I have a used motor obtained from a local laundromat. I was   
   >>>>     hoping I   
   >>>>    could make a DC generator out of it. I really know nothing about   
   >>>>    electronics but have been reading about wind turbines and various   
   >>>>    motors people aree using for such. Since I got this motor for free   
   >>>>    I was hoping I could use it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     The only specs I could find on this motor is:   
   >>>>    1/2 HP FSP Drive Motor 3363736 with Start Switch 62850 for   
   >>>> Whirlpool,Roper, Kenmore Washers 2-speed 1725/1140 RPM Motor Model   
   >>>> C68PXTRS-4419 115 Volts. 60 Hz. 9.8/9 Amps.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     It has some nice looking copper coils, but there does not seem to   
   >>>>    be much magnitism about it. I hooked a volt meter up to it and   
   >>>>    tried spinning the rotor by hand and it barely registered. There   
   >>>>    doesn't appear to be any way to take the housing apart. I had   
   >>>>    thought about tearing it apart to get at the coils and use them to   
   >>>>    build a stator and then find enough magnets to make a rotor. I've   
   >>>>    seen where people build a circular wooden mold to lay their copper   
   >>>>    coils in after which they pour fiberglass resin or similar product   
   >>>>    to encasulate the coils.   
   >>>>    A second mold is prepared similarly for the magnets/rotor. And in   
   >>>>    some cases a second set of magnet/rotor so they have a rotor on   
   >>>>    both sides of the stator doubling the output.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Does any of this make any sense or am I just plain loco ?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     I have solar panels to provide some electricity out in my barn.   
   >>>>     But   
   >>>>    when we have rainy days they put out less than 12 volts. But on   
   >>>>    those days we seem to have nice breezes ( sandhills of North   
   >>>>    Carolina ).   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Like I've said, I know nothing about elec but trying to learn as   
   >>>>     I go.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     TIA   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Paul   
   >>>>   
   >>> You probably have the wrong motor. Google F&P wind generator (or   
   >>> similar).   
   >>> There is a wealth of info on what you want to do.   
   >>> Posy again if you have no luck.   
   >>    Yes I've read a bit about Fisher and Paykel. Their motor setup is   
   >> entirely different. My motor has less but larger coils nested upon each   
   >> other. The whole unit reminds me of a car alternator in appearance.   
   >> F&P is more of a pancake appearance with 42 sets of coils side by side   
   >> and magnets are attached to the outter cover to act as rotor.   
   >> And as mentioned, no way to unassemble my unit. I'll have to bust it   
   >> apart if I want to get at the innards. Its coils are of a larger guage   
   >> copper wire ( a tad less than 1/16" diameter ).   
   >>   
   >>    Paul   
   >>   
   >>   
   > I suspect that you have a single phase AC induction motor- 4 or 6 poles   
   > judging from the speeds. It will have a starting winding You could tear   
   > it apart but ,as is, it is useless for a DC generator. This motor wont   
   > have magnets- if you can see the rotor- it will likely have conductors   
   > imbedded  and these are shorted at each end.   
   >   
   >   Don Kelly   
   > remove the "cross" to reply directly   
      
   From the motor spec, your suspicions have to be correct as to motor type   
   and construction, and this motor could never directly produce DC.  It is   
   however possible to generate AC from an induction generator and rectify   
   it to DC.  This is probably not a good project for a beginner, but   
   searching on "single phase induction generator" would return some   
   interesting information.   
      
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