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   Grant Taylor to gfretwell@aol.com   
   Re: n00b question about "What is a phase   
   05 Oct 19 20:54:44   
   
   From: gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net   
      
   On 10/4/19 2:32 PM, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:   
   > NFPA is trying to standardize the terms "Ungrounded Conductor",   
   > "Grounded Conductor", "Grounding Conductor" (the Grounding   
   > Electrode Conductor) and "Bonding Conductor" (the Equipment Grounding   
   > Conductors") but old habits die hard.   
      
   "Ungrounded Conductor" and "Grounded Conductor" make sense enough to me.   
      
   I can't quite understand the difference between "Grounded Conductor" vs   
   "Grounding Conductor".  I guess the former is a conductor that is   
   grounded and the latter is the specific conductor that does the grounding.   
      
   I have a problem with "Bonding Conductor".  To me, that's vague, and   
   only implies that it's the conductor that bonds to /something/.  But to   
   me, the two words "bonding" and "conductor" don't say what is being   
   bonded to.  Perhaps there is an implicit 3rd term that would make a   
   difference; "Ground Bonding Conductor".   
      
   My biggest hangup is that "bonding" means that two things are connected   
   together, usually quite well.  As such, I think that I could "bond" two   
   "ungrounded conductors" together.   
      
   > "Grounding" vs "Bonding" seems to be the hardest sell but some at   
   > NFPA feel "Grounding" is the wire(s) that go to earth and all of the   
   > other green/bare wires are simply "Bonding" to a common point that   
   > is connected to earth. (The main Bonding Jumper)   
      
   I can see how the green / bare wired are bonded to a common point that   
   is also bonded to a grounding conductor.  But I would think that the far   
   end of said green / bare wires form as a grounding conductor themselves.   
     I guess do to fan out, they could be called grounded conductors as in   
   they aren't themselves directly grounded, but rather indirectly bonded   
   to something that is itself directly grounded.   
      
      
      
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