XPost: uk.d-i-y   
   From: timstreater@greenbee.net   
      
   On 16 Sep 2021 at 20:34:25 BST, Steve Walker    
   wrote:   
      
   > On 16/09/2021 18:24, GB wrote:   
   >> On 16/09/2021 18:17, Scott wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:10:23 +0100, GB    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 16/09/2021 17:46, nightjar wrote:   
   >>>>> On 16/09/2021 16:49, GB wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 16/09/2021 15:54, nightjar wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The main engineering problem seems to be keeping it from making   
   >>>>>>> detectable noise while the boat is running in quiet mode.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That doesn't seem to be an issue, judging by the Vigil films. There's   
   >>>>>> a tannoy system that must be audible miles away, and the crew seem to   
   >>>>>> shout at each other the whole time. What difference would a little   
   >>>>>> gurgling from the reactor make?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> I'm talking about real life :-)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> :)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> However, there is a high power setting fro the coolant pumps, which is   
   >>>>> relatively noisy. That is used when maximum power is more important   
   >>>>> than   
   >>>>> stealth. It is also used when leaving port, as it prevents any spy or   
   >>>>> spy ship from listening for the boat's silent running signature.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's interesting. I wonder what happens if they forget to do that   
   >>>> once? Do they scrap the fleet and buy a new one? If so, it would be   
   >>>> quite an expensive mistake.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Could they not just alter one of the components, preferably the   
   >>> noisiest one?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Nah! If you're going to do the job, do it properly.   
   >>   
   >> If I had the choice between several dozen new hospitals and a fleet of   
   >> new nuclear submarines, I'd want to be equipped to start a nuclear war   
   >> we couldn't survive. Wouldn't you?   
   >   
   > The whole point is that having nuclear armed submarines at sea means   
   > that no-one can attack without potentially suffering a retaliatory   
   > attack. Hospitals are of no use if someone decides to obliterate your   
   > country, knowing that there will be no response.   
   >   
   > While it would be better if no countries had nuclear weapons, while some   
   > potential enemies do, it makes sense to have your own response of last   
   > resort.   
      
   Yes, I think GB is suffering from the "why have nuclear subs with missiles   
   when we aren't going to use them?" syndrome. He overlooks that they have been   
   in use, 24x7, for the last 50 years or whatever it is.   
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