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   From: fredxx@nospam.co.uk   
      
   On 17/09/2021 11:58, 72y33 wrote:   
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   > "The Natural Philosopher"  wrote in message   
   > news:si1rqg$123$2@dont-email.me...   
   >> On 17/09/2021 11:30, 72y33 wrote:   
   >>> The Natural Philosopher  wrote   
   >>>> Pancho wrote   
   >>>   
   >>>>> I thought nuclear armed subs were essentially a first strike   
   >>>>> weapon. They can hide just offshore of the target, reducing warning   
   >>>>> time to a few minutes.   
   >>>> That tooo.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ICBMs are just as effective for retaliation, and much cheaper. They   
   >>>>> can be mobile and so hard to destroy. The problem is they take much   
   >>>>> longer from launch to arrival and give the target nation time to   
   >>>>> react to an attack.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The whole point of first strike was to take out fixed icbm sites to   
   >>>> prevent retaliation   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But we aren't giving the Aussies nuclear bombs are we? We are just   
   >>>>> giving them nuclear powered subs.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> I believe so.   
   >>>> They are most useful to destroy incoming naval craft  - the chinese   
   >>>> dont want to bomb Taiwan, or Australia - they want to annex it.   
   >>>   
   >>> There is no possibility of China annexing Australia.   
   >   
   >> Every possibility I would say   
   >   
   > More fool you...   
   >   
   > - Australia is not very heavily populated.   
   >> And is not very defensible.   
   >   
   > That is mindless bullshit.   
   >   
   > And is full of pacifists who would probably   
   >> welcome them with open arms   
   >   
   > More mindless bullshit.   
   >   
   >>> Even the USA doesn’t have what it takes to do that.   
   >>   
   >> Course it does.   
   >   
   > Fraid not. No possibility of holding it.   
   >   
   > They couldn’t even manage that with Afghanistan.   
      
   Is Australia equally corrupt and inhabited by religious freaks too   
   seemingly all too happy to commit suicide in human guided weapons?   
      
   I'm surprised you're willing to draw the comparison? But then you in   
   Australia and I don't.   
      
   >>>>> I was more intrigued by the idea of nuclear powered container ships.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Indeed.   
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