XPost: uk.d-i-y   
   From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 17/09/2021 12:43, Pancho wrote:   
   > On 17/09/2021 11:33, Steve Walker wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> But subs hide much better. Time taken to arrive is not a problem for a   
   >> retaliatory weapon though.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Do they? With modern equipment. I actually suspect subs are more   
   > vulnerable to being taken out in a pre-emptive strike. I think the UK   
   > often has just one operational trident sub.   
   >   
   No, they are not.   
      
      
   > Governments lie about the real reasons to placate the public.   
   "I think the UK  often has just one operational trident sub."   
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
   Governments lie about the real facts to placate the public.   
      
   >   
   > Most of the cash poor nuclear powers rely on mobile land nukes.   
      
   There are no cash poor nuclear powers.   
      
   You need to be pretty well heeled to build a bomb   
      
   Wiki:   
      
   Contents   
      
        1 Statistics and force configuration   
        2 Recognized nuclear-weapon states   
            2.1 United States   
            2.2 Russia (successor to the Soviet Union)   
            2.3 United Kingdom   
            2.4 France   
            2.5 China   
        3 States declaring possession of nuclear weapons   
            3.1 India   
            3.2 Pakistan   
            3.3 North Korea   
        4 States indicated to possess nuclear weapons   
            4.1 Israel   
        5 Launch authority   
        6 Nuclear weapons sharing   
        7 States formerly possessing nuclear weapons   
            7.1 South Africa   
            7.2 Former Soviet Republics   
      
   None of those are 'cash poor'   
   None of them lack at the very least a functional air force and some   
   missile capability   
      
      
      
   Trains,   
   > lorries, multiple geographically distance launch sites. More weapons for   
   > your money. These are countries which are most likely to face a first   
   > strike.   
   >   
   You are making this up, completely. Talking out of your arse really.   
   >   
   >   
      
      
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