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|    Leroy N. Soetoro to All    |
|    It's Too Hot For EVs To Work Right    |
|    22 Jul 23 18:54:28    |
      XPost: alt.energy.automobile, rec.autos.driving, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics, alt.global-warming       From: democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov              https://jalopnik.com/its-too-hot-for-evs-to-work-right-1850663950              The heat wave affecting much of the U.S. may be causing electric vehicles       to lose nearly a third of their range.              We already knew electric vehicles don’t do so well when it gets really       cold outside. Well, apparently they don’t really like extreme heat either.       According to Automotive News, the recent heat wave across much of the       Southern and Western U.S. has brought their range issue to the forefront.              A Seattle-based EV battery and range analytics company called Recurrent       has reportedly tested thousands of vehicles in various weather conditions.       It found that many vehicles experienced “significant declines” in their       range as temperatures rose. Some apparently suffered a 31 percent drop       when temps got about 100 degrees Fahrenheit. That is less than ideal. At       cooler temperatures, the outlet reports that the range loss wasn’t as       high. There was an average of 5 percent reduction at 90 degrees and 2.8       percent at 80, so it’s definitely not linear.              Auto News says that in order to calculate these average temperatures,       Recurrent used a blend of data from the 17,000 vehicles the company keeps       track of. This data includes 65 EVs and plug-in hybrid models that include       mainstays like Tesla’s entire lineup, the Chevy Bolt EV, Hyundai Konda,       Nissan Leaf, Ford F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-E.              Unfortunately, we don’t know which models did the worst in terms of range       loss. However, Recurrent did say that all four of Tesla’s vehicles had the       smallest range degradation, but they also had the widest gap between their       real-world range and the EPA’s estimates. Part of the reason for their       resistance to range loss may be because of their heat pumps, Recurrent’s       CEO Scott Case told AutoNews. They’re apparently much more efficient at       cooling than standard automotive air conditioners.              The outlet also spoke with Greg Less, the technical director of the       University of Michigan Battery Lab. He explained that range decline from       heat has its roots in battery chemistry.              “Once you’re above [104 degrees Fahrenheit] you start to have a breakdown       of the passive emission layer on the anode, and that breakdown will then       cause consumption of the liquid electrolyte, which will shorten the       lifetime of your battery,” Less told the outlet.              Luckily for EV owners, he doesn’t think the excessive heat will damage EV       batteries long term. That’s because they aren’t always driven in 100+       degree weather, and EVs have a fairly robust system to cool batteries.              From what Less says, it sounds like high temperatures aren’t the direct       cause of range degradation. It’s got more to do with the fact they use       more electricity to run stuff in that sort of weather.              “You’re running the fan harder, you’re running the refrigerant faster. All       of these things take more electricity,” Less said to Auto News. “So that’s       going to reduce the range.”                     --       We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so that       stupid people won't be offended.              Durham Report: The FBI has an integrity problem. It has none.              No collusion - Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III, March 2019.       Officially made Nancy Pelosi a two-time impeachment loser.              Thank you for cleaning up the disaster of the 2008-2017 Obama / Biden       fiasco, President Trump.              Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the       The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood       queer liberal democrat donors.              President Trump boosted the economy, reduced illegal invasions, appointed       dozens of judges and three SCOTUS justices.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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