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   Leroy N. Soetoro to All   
   Eat the Bugs Update: Nuclear for We and    
   21 Oct 24 21:51:06   
   
   XPost: alt.energy.nuclear, talk.politics.guns, alt.politics.green.party   
   XPost: sac.politics, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov   
      
   https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2024/10/16/eat-the-bugs-update-   
   nuclear-for-we-and-not-for-thee-peasants-n3795871   
      
   If you ever - EH-VAH - harbored any lingering doubts in your tenderhearted   
   soul that we live in a "them and us" world of a globalist elite cabal and   
   everyone else, I am going to dispel that illusion once and for all for   
   you.   
      
   Well, okay. Actually, I'M not going to - the cabal is going to do it for   
   me. I'm merely going to line up the "them" and the "us" pictures to   
   clarify and crystalize where the dividing lines are.   
      
   Back towards the end of September, I told you about what seemed to be a   
   momentous announcement on the nuclear energy front - the rejuvenation and   
   restart of the legendary Three Mile Island nuclear plant. It sounded like   
   a real boon for the troubled East Coast energy grid thanks to short-   
   sighted, climate cult governors and utility boards hurtling towards the   
   energy impoverishment of their citizens. They are facing certain and self-   
   imposed disasters all in the service of achieving arbitrary, bull-Schlitz   
   'NetZero' goals.   
      
   What a headfake it turned out to be.   
      
   Yes, Three Mile Island will glow again, but every last drop of juice will   
   go not to illuminate and warm homes in Teaneck or the Catskills - it will   
   all belong to Microsoft, who is financing the venture for their incoming   
   data center plans.   
      
   Tough luck for Tri-State area residents with their lunatic governors, heat   
   pump mandates, war on natural gas-fired electrical plants, and their love   
   affair with wind turbines at sea.   
      
   Now Gaia-loving Gates already had his fingers in the nuclear pie, so to   
   speak, having invested in start-up TerraPower back in 2008, then breaking   
   ground on their first nuclear power plant site in Wyoming this year.   
      
   Microsoft, whatever they espouse publicly, isn't leaving it up to tornado   
   and hail storm bait solar farms or exploding wind turbines.   
      
   Neither is Google, oddly enough.   
      
   The wind turbines in the mock-up are so cute, aren't they? You'll notice   
   they're spinning, as they often do not do.   
      
   Lucky for Google - unlike you - the company will have SEVEN  cute little   
   nuclear reactors to run whatever their little evil hearts desire.   
      
   Again, unlike you when you need that effin' mandated heat pump cranking to   
   keep your house tepid inside when it's 28° outside, Google's power sources   
   will be reliable and 24/7.   
      
   SUCK IT UP, PEASANT - THE SEARCHES AND TERRIBLE SUMMARIES MUST FLOW   
      
   Sensing a trend yet? You should be.   
      
   Oh, gosh. Big nuclear news today. Guess who and not you?   
      
   ...Amazon is investing in X-Energy and joining Washington-based nuclear   
   operator Energy Northwest to deploy nuclear energy in a planned 5 GW fleet   
   by 2040.   
      
   After Amazon and its pears claimed for years to be using "100% Renewable   
   power", it has become an open secret that this has only worked because of   
   heavy use of steady nuclear, natural gas, and coal power bought as "gray   
   energy" and taken from the local power grid.   
      
   An announcement ceremony is happening in Washington DC now.   
      
   !! SURPRISE !!   
      
   Yet another totally woke, earth-friendly, eat-the-bugs advocating, in-   
   your-face climate cult charter member tech giant admits that renewables   
   cannot cut the mustard for reliable and sufficient electricity generation.   
   How nice they have the wherewithal to build their own nuclear reactors.   
   Problem solved!   
      
   At the same time, they continue to righteously lecture on what's   
   acceptable behavior and proselytize the Green Gospel about how YOU, the   
   knuckle-dragging Luddites, need to live even as they sell you crap in the   
   most efficient way possible for them.   
      
   I once told you all the story of the Georgia Vogtle nuclear plant, the   
   newest nuclear reactors constructed and to come online in the US. Unit 3   
   fired up in July of last year, and Unit 4 this past February. It had taken   
   fifteen years and cost $36.8B - twice as much time and money thanks to   
   repeated government interference with change orders and overruns. It   
   bankrupted Southern Company, which is how we wound up with Florida Power &   
   Light here in Pensacola. SouthernCo had to sell them our branch.   
      
   I guarantee you that nothing of this magnitude will ever happen to any of   
   the powerhouse tech companies unless another company with the name "Musk"   
   on it asks for permits to build one.   
      
   There will be little privately branded, privately owned reactors popping   
   up everywhere for the favored classes among us.   
      
   Meanwhile, in places like, say, New Jersey, where a rodential chief   
   executive is both drunk on power and desperate to shove off-shore wind   
   turbines and his Green fever dreams down his citizens' throats (costs and   
   consequences be damned), the resistance is marshaling their forces as   
   never before.   
      
   Then again, they have some hard data to share about the complete lack of   
   benefits to both the NetZero fantasies of the governor and the slamma-   
   jamma to ratepayers of the state that this boondoggle is fixin' to bring.   
      
   For one thing, because of inflation and the wind industry's problem with   
   "quality control," wind development is not as lucrative as it was two   
   years ago. Developers have been pulling out of projects wholesale, not   
   bidding for new leases, or asking utility boards for renegotiated rates on   
   existing agreements. You can read that last as "screw the ratepayers" and   
   that is exactly what is happening with Gov Phil Murphy's last gasp shot at   
   the Atlantic Shores 1 & 2 projects.   
      
   The feds just approved the project (with some havey-cavey stuff going on   
   there, probably panic-induced at the thought of a Trump victory) at the   
   beginning of this month. Now, the utility board gets to hammer out numbers   
   to make it all pay off for the developers. There had already been   
   agreements in 2021 that the projects were eligible for Offshore Renewable   
   Energy Credits (ORECs) for power. In light of delays and other projects'   
   booms and busts (NTM being NJ), the NJ Board of Public Utilities (BPU) is   
   revisiting the Atlantic Shores 1 (AS1) & 2 (AS2) credit allowances.   
      
   Someone ran the numbers instead of trusting the state, the developers, and   
   the feds.   
      
   Technically *winkwinknudgenudge* the BPU is "supposed" to "protect   
   ratepayers" first and foremost. That's their job description.   
      
   SO BEND OVER, NEW JERSEY   
      
   ...On March 6, 2024 the BPU announced a proposed Fourth Solicitation   
   seeking bids for an additional 1200-4000 MW of offshore wind capacity. In   
   this solicitation, in addition to receiving bids for new projects, BPU has   
   allowed companies who were awarded ORECs in the First or Second   
   Solicitations to rebid those projects and receive new awards which would   
   supersede the existing OREC prices. Since new awards to AS1 or AS2 will   
   undoubtedly result in higher ratepayer subsidies than those already   
      
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