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   From: trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au   
      
   On 4/21/2013 12:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote:   
   > On 2013-04-21, Trevor Wilson wrote:   
   >> "...well regulated militia..." do you not understand?   
   >   
   > "Well regulated" at the time the Constitution was written meant "well   
   > practiced" or "well trained."   
      
   **No. That is what YOU think it means. Either way, at the time the 2nd   
   Amendment was written, their was no official US armed forces. There is   
   now. And, it is the most formidable armed force on the planet. A   
   citizen's militia is now unnecessary.   
      
      
    Perhaps in Australia it is different,   
   > but here in the U.S. one of the most fundamental axioms of law is that   
   > the intent of the lawmaker is the force and effect of the law. You do   
   > not get to change that effect simply because the popular use of a word   
   > or phrase changes over time.   
      
   **Indeed. Which is why the 2nd Amendment is more tha 100 years overdue   
   for change.   
      
   >   
   >> Time for a change.   
   >   
   > Hard to argue with that. Experts and world leaders throughout history   
   > agree with you. Idi Amin, Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler,   
   > Pol Pot, Mao Tse-Tung, Kim Jung-Il, Musmammar Qaddafi, and others have   
   > found central regulation and strict control over firearm ownership to   
   > be quite effective in implementing their respective societies.   
      
   **That old chestnut. I'll bite.   
      
   List the SPECIFIC changes made to firearms laws by your cited people.   
   I'll start by explaining that it was the Weimar Republic that brought in   
   strict gun control laws. Hitler eased those laws considerably. To the   
   point where 10 year old children were armed to the teeth, with no adult   
   supervision. Just ask any US service people who entered Germany close to   
   the end of WWII. Many US army people were shot at by young children.   
      
   Anyway, let's see the rest of the list.   
      
      
      
   --   
   Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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