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   From: rogblake@iname.invalid   
      
   On 2013-04-22, krw@attt.bizz  wrote:   
   > Idiot.  Learn something about the Constitution.   
      
   It's not worth the time and effort to get into pissing matches with   
   that kind of idiotic statist. I would just put a few counter facts out   
   there and let him continue to put his foot in his mouth.   
      
   First of all, he's not even in the U.S. so by definition has nothing   
   meaningful to say about the Constitution.  He keeps making reference   
   to "the rest of the Western civilized world" or words to that   
   effect, and clearly does not realize that the U.S. was intentionally   
   designed to be different than the rest of the world. We are not   
   supposed to be like Europe, or for that matter like Australia.   
      
   Trevor clearly does not believe in the natural right to self-defense   
   that so many of the U.S. founders spoke of and enshrined in the   
   2nd Amendment, and instead wants to trust government, an institution   
   historically bathed in the blood of innocents. He thinks that the   
   2nd Amendment is "outdated" because the "situation has changed"   
   since the 18th century, not understanding that the Bill of Rights   
   addresses issues related to fundamental human nature which does   
   *not* change.   
      
   He appears to think that the repressive regimes that butchered so   
   many people were *not* dealing with unarmed/disarmed populations.   
   (So for example in his mind apparently the millions of Ukranians   
   that were starved to death by Stalin as secret policemen raided   
   their villages, stole their harvests, and took all the food in   
   their homes were permitted to have guns.) History shows us many   
   examples of what happens to helpless, unarmed populations in the   
   face of tyrannical governments, and that any government no matter   
   how "englightened" can turn tyrannical.  Instead of taking note of   
   these obvious warnings, the moron demands to be told the specific   
   legislation that was used to disarm people! What a maroon!!   
      
   When dealing with private-sector thugs and criminals Trevor seems to   
   think that the police are going to be able to provide protection.   
   That is a bad joke. What would he do if he were in the U.S. and   
   a band of armed Obama voters broke into his house wanting his stuff   
   and his blood? All the police can do is make out the report and   
   try to catch the perps after the fact, while any surviving family   
   attends the funeral.   
      
   You are never going to convince a guy like that of anything, he is   
   beyond hope. All you can really do is post some counter information   
   so that people new to the debate, or on the fence, can see that he   
   and those like him are in the wrong.   
      
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