XPost: alt.support.boy-lovers, alt.support.incest, rec.nude
XPost: alt.anytown, alt.fan.goons
From: user@example.net
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:18:27 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:25:43 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:18:55 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:22 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:39:43 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:45:21 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:31:22 +0930, David
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:43:29 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>>>>> typed furiously:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:21:16 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:17:18 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:14:48 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:52:02 GMT, "Zareth"
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The fact that a child either six OR nine is even thinking sex is a
sign that
>>>>>>>>>>>>something is very fucked up in that home. Honestly, for fuck
sake....what
>>>>>>>>>>>>fucking parenting!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I realize that you were drug into this argument by idiots who hope
>>>>>>>>>>>that someone will see them and either be indignant that people even
>>>>>>>>>>>discuss such things or that someone will be able to supply the
>>>>>>>>>>>intelligence that they lack, but you're way off base here. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>think that a nine-year-old girl and an eleven-year-old boy wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>try to play a game of "doctor" or "house" or "mommy & daddy" that
>>>>>>>>>>>involves some kind of sex play, then you're truly ignorant of
>>>>>>>>>>>children. Not that they would call it sex -- and not that it would
be
>>>>>>>>>>>sex in the adult sense of the word.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It was sex in both the adult and legal sense and had he been caught
he
>>>>>>>>>>would undoubtedly have been incarcerated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>An 11-year-old would have been incarcerated? Bwa ha ha ha ha! He would
>>>>>>>>>have had his little ass tanned, but incarcerated? What planet do you
>>>>>>>>>come from?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Planet earth where if older boys are caught sexually abusing six year
>>>>>>>>old girls they get treatment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bullshit. It could only happen in America.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you imagine in Australia juvenile sex offenders are allowed to roam
>>>>>>around raping infants at will?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As desirable as you might find this, it is simply not the case
>>>>>
>>>>>And yet, on this very date, the Supreme Court of Georgia released a
>>>>>young man who had been imprisoned for aggravated child molestation
>>>>>because he had been videotaped having consensual oral sex with a
>>>>>15-year-old fellow student at a party; he was 17 at the time. Although
>>>>>the vote was split 4-3, the final decision included the statement that
>>>>>the original law was intended to protect children from adults, not to
>>>>>regulate consensual sex between minors.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hell, that's a landmark decision coming from the state of Georgia!
>>>>
>>>>Yes so called "Romeo and Juliet" provisions are becoming the norm,even
>>>>for homosexuals in some jurisdictions.
>>>>
>>>>If accompanied by increased severity of punishment for pedophiles I am
>>>>quite comfortable with that.
>>>>
>>>>Despite the allegations to the contrary from pedophiles..I think it
>>>>most unjust that kids sexual experimentation should be caught up in
>>>>laws designed for sick twisted perverts.
>>>
>>>And yet it is the actions of people like yourself that are primarily
>>>responsible for every game of "doctor" that gets reported as abuse.
>>
>>
>>And just how does your twisted mind come to that conclusion?
>
>You're the one whipping up all the hysteria about how child-molesters
>are waiting behind every corner to attack children -- you're the one
>who makes parents afraid of any innocent little thing that might
>happen. You're the reason that over 50% of reports of sexual abuse
>involve other children. Thanks to you, whenever a parent sees their
>kid involved in perfectly normal sex-play with another kid, they jump
>to the conclusion that it must be some kind of abuse.
You arrive at that conclusion because I said kids sexual
experimentation in normal development should be clearly distinguished
from juvenile sex predators?
Amazing.
>
>>>
>>>But I guess that's an acceptable casualty in your "crusade" -- as long
>>>as you acknowledge that it's a shame that kids fooling around are
>>>going to have to carry the label "sexual offender" for the rest of
>>>their lives.
Some like Mathew Limon thoroughly deserved it.
Sexually abusing younger children is *NOT* fooling around or playing
doctor.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And it doesn't have anything to do
>>>>>>>>>>>with parenting. Kids are always trying things that they know their
>>>>>>>>>>>parents wouldn't want them to do. It's probably in the job
description
>>>>>>>>>>>for "kid!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The guy grew up to be a parent that made dinner for adults while they
>>>>>>>>>>fucked his eleven year old daughter in her bedroom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm not speaking to that -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'll bet you are not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You are the one who keeps bringing that up. Do you want children to be
>>>>>>>hurt?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Your premise that children are "hurt" if parents don't bring
>>>>>>pedophiles to their bedrooms is little short of insane.
>>>>>
>>>>>All I've ever seen David suggest is that children need to be educated
>>>>>about sex -- and not by the hands-on method! But to see that they are
>>>>>informed about pregnancy and STD's AND predatory adults -- or, for
>>>>>that matter, predators of any age!
>>>>
>>>>Yet he finds it acceptable and *normal* for fathers
>>>> to fuck their pre-pubescent daughters!
>>>
>>>And yet, if the children are taught about predatory adults, it doesn't
>>>seem that such could happen.
>>>
>>>>The birth control issue arose as a counter to the horror of a babies
>>>>father being it's grandfather too.
>>>
>>>You say that, but you don't provide the evidence that would prove it,
>>>do you? Why is that, I wonder.
>>
>>Why do you require evidence of conversations *you* were part of?
>>
>>See I *did* take the trouble to check .... your claim to be unaware of
>>Simpson's agenda is quite specious.
>
>Oh, really? But I notice that you don't bother to provide proof of
>that either. I've seen David discuss age of consent laws -- and I
>participated in those discussions. I've seen David discuss educating
>children about sexual matters -- and I participated in those
>discussions. But I've never seen him post any of the crap you claim he
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