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   Message 466 of 786   
   Brandon D Cartwright to All   
   Re: please take care (1/2)   
   28 Oct 07 23:08:00   
   
   XPost: alt.support.boy-lovers, alt.support.incest, rec.nude   
   XPost: alt.anytown, alt.fan.goons   
   From: user@example.net   
      
   On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:07:40 +1030, David    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:25:43 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright   
   > typed furiously:   
   >   
   >>On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:18:55 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>   
   >>wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:12:22 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:39:43 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>   
   >>>>wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:45:21 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright   
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:31:22 +0930, David    
   >>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:43:29 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright   
   >>>>>>> typed furiously:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:21:16 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>   
   >>>>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:17:18 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:14:48 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>   
   >>>>>>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:52:02 GMT, "Zareth"   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>The fact that a child either six OR nine is even thinking sex is a   
   sign that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>something is very fucked up in that home. Honestly, for fuck   
   sake....what   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>fucking parenting!!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>I realize that you were drug into this argument by idiots who hope   
   >>>>>>>>>>>that someone will see them and either be indignant that people even   
   >>>>>>>>>>>discuss such things or that someone will be able to supply the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>intelligence that they lack, but you're way off base here. If you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>think that a nine-year-old girl and an eleven-year-old boy wouldn't   
   >>>>>>>>>>>try to play a game of "doctor" or "house" or "mommy & daddy" that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>involves some kind of sex play, then you're truly ignorant of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>children. Not that they would call it sex -- and not that it would   
   be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>sex in the adult sense of the word.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>It was sex in both the adult and legal sense and had he been caught   
   he   
   >>>>>>>>>>would undoubtedly have been incarcerated.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>An 11-year-old would have been incarcerated? Bwa ha ha ha ha! He would   
   >>>>>>>>>have had his little ass tanned, but incarcerated? What planet do you   
   >>>>>>>>>come from?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Planet earth where if older boys are caught sexually abusing six year   
   >>>>>>>>old girls they get treatment.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Bullshit. It could only happen in America.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Do you imagine in Australia juvenile sex offenders are allowed to roam   
   >>>>>>around raping infants at will?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>As desirable as you might find this, it is simply not the case   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>And yet, on this very date, the Supreme Court of Georgia released a   
   >>>>>young man who had been imprisoned for aggravated child molestation   
   >>>>>because he had been videotaped having consensual oral sex with a   
   >>>>>15-year-old fellow student at a party; he was 17 at the time. Although   
   >>>>>the vote was split 4-3, the final decision included the statement that   
   >>>>>the original law was intended to protect children from adults, not to   
   >>>>>regulate consensual sex between minors.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Hell, that's a landmark decision coming from the state of Georgia!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Yes so called "Romeo and Juliet" provisions are becoming the norm,even   
   >>>>for homosexuals in some jurisdictions.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>If accompanied by increased severity of punishment for pedophiles I am   
   >>>>quite comfortable with that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Despite the allegations to the contrary from pedophiles..I think it   
   >>>>most unjust that kids sexual experimentation should be caught up in   
   >>>>laws designed for sick twisted perverts.   
   >>>   
   >>>And yet it is the actions of people like yourself that are primarily   
   >>>responsible for every game of "doctor" that gets reported as abuse.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>And just how  does your twisted mind come to that conclusion?   
   >>   
   >From the news reports.   
      
   huh?   
      
   s400th's mind comes to that conclusion from Australian news reports?   
      
      
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>But I guess that's an acceptable casualty in your "crusade" -- as long   
   >>>as you acknowledge that it's a shame that kids fooling around are   
   >>>going to have to carry the label "sexual offender" for the rest of   
   >>>their lives.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> And it doesn't have anything to do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>with parenting. Kids are always trying things that they know their   
   >>>>>>>>>>>parents wouldn't want them to do. It's probably in the job   
   description   
   >>>>>>>>>>>for "kid!"   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>The guy grew up to be a parent that made dinner for adults while they   
   >>>>>>>>>>fucked his eleven year old daughter in her bedroom   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>I'm not speaking to that -   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>I'll bet you are not.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>You are the one who keeps bringing that up. Do you want children to be   
   >>>>>>>hurt?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Your premise that children are "hurt" if parents don't bring   
   >>>>>>pedophiles to their bedrooms is little short of insane.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>All I've ever seen David suggest is that children need to be educated   
   >>>>>about sex -- and not by the hands-on method! But to see that they are   
   >>>>>informed about pregnancy and STD's AND predatory adults -- or, for   
   >>>>>that matter, predators of any age!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Yet he finds it acceptable and *normal* for fathers   
   >>>> to fuck their pre-pubescent daughters!   
   >>>   
   >>>And yet, if the children are taught about predatory adults, it doesn't   
   >>>seem that such could happen.   
   >>>   
   >>>>The birth control issue arose as a counter to the horror of a babies   
   >>>>father being it's grandfather too.   
   >>>   
   >>>You say that, but you don't provide the evidence that would prove it,   
   >>>do you? Why is that, I wonder.   
   >>   
   >>Why do you require evidence of conversations *you* were part of?   
   >>   
   >>See I *did* take the trouble to check .... your claim to be unaware of   
   >>Simpson's agenda is quite specious.   
   >>   
   >Yes, my agenda is quite specious and it should be no trouble for you   
   >to cite a reference.   
      
   you seem remarkably off form.   
      
   The point made was that s400th's claim to ignorance of your agenda   
   was specious.   
      
   >Of course such a reference will refute your lies   
   >so you will never provide one.   
      
   Both I and bobandcarole have provided plenty,and of course , you   
   yourself in alt.support.incest have made your views quite plain.   
      
   An adult having sex with a child is doing the child a favor if the   
   child enjoys it.   
      
   The damage done to a child fucked by it's parents is caused by the   
   social workers and the LEA if the child enjoys it.   
      
   *NOT* to fuck your own or any other child who wants it is child   
   abuse and a product of religious brainwashing.   
      
   The day is coming when incest and pedophilia will be legalized.   
      
   You have asserted all these things and s400th is well aware of it.   
      
   Are you now recanting?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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