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From: 4s00th@hushmail.com
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:07:29 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:39:25 -0400, 4s00th <4s00th@hushmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>>They are symptoms of a psychiatric illness that should be treated at
>>>the earliest possible stage.
>>
>>Says someone who is not qualified to discuss psychiatric or
>>psychological conditions.
>
>And you know this how?
By your own statements, by the fact that when you post information
about pedophilia as a psychological condition, you don't even
understand what you post.
>Coming someone who presents,at least on Usenet, as an excellent
>candidate for treatment that would be almost funny if it wasn't so
>sad.
>
>How can you expect to lead others to renounce active pedophilic
>activity if you won't get treatment yourself?
And what makes you think I'm not in treatment or that I have never
been in treatment?
While your post regarding the prognosis of treatment for pedophiles
states that the prognosis is good for people who show insight into
their self, their past and their condition, what it does not say is
that treatment does not stop the feelings or desires commonly called
pedophilia -- treatment is aimed at teaching the individual to accept
that he has these feelings that he cannot act upon and to learn to
control his behaviors so that he does not commit any sexual offenses
against children.
You'll note that under treatment, the post you made notes that
chemical castration has shown mixed results. In the first place, it
doesn't always work in stopping or controlling sexual desire, and it
doesn't always work in preventing the person from becoming sexually
aroused. In the second place, it is aimed at stopping sexual desire,
but sexual desire is only a component of pedophilia for some people.
As I have pointed out in the past, it cannot stop romantic desires or
desires for companionship -- and that is a large part of those who
prefer the term "boy-lover" to "pedophile." You present a picture of
the pedophile as simply seeking sex, and there certainly are
pedophiles who fall into that category. However, there are a lot of us
who are NOT primarily interested in sex, or certainly not solely
interested in sex. We also have romantic feelings for boys. Many of us
prefer the company of boys over the company of anyone else -- even
without any possibility of sex. As I have also noted, one doesn't need
to get an erection to perform some sexual acts, so chemical castration
-- or even physical castration does not prevent sex, especially in
someone who is more concerned with the pleasure of his/her partner
than they are in their own.
Since you fail to recognize that the treatment goals in psychiatric or
psychological treatment of pedophilia is to control one's behavior
rather than your idea that treatment can somehow magically stop one
from feeling sexual attraction to children; since you continue to call
for chemical castration as well as your insults regarding physical
castration without regard to the fact that they have only shown mixed
results at best; and since you fail to see that my goals here of
helping people accept their feelings and learn to live with them
without harming others is, in fact, the only possible treatment for
pedophilia -- at least, at present; I can only conclude that you are
not qualified to discuss psychiatric or psychological conditions and
their treatment. More importantly, you are certainly not qualified to
discuss the paraphilias.
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