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   Ann to Jim   
   Re: RIP James Kim   
   14 Dec 06 03:28:25   
   
   XPost: alt.forestry, misc.rural   
   From: nntpmail@epix.net   
      
   On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:04:22 -0500, Jim wrote:   
      
   > Ann wrote:   
   >   
   >> John Gilmer wrote:   
   >> > Goedjn wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >> >> >It would have taken a high degree of what used to be called "moral   
   >> >> >courage" to simply sit tight rather than leave his family behind to   
   >> >> >go for "help." But, like it or not, sometimes the best thing to do   
   >> >> >is NOTHING.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> For how long?   
   >> >>   
   >> >> 10 days?   
   >> >> 30 days?   
   >> >   
   >> > Bingo!   
   >> >   
   >> > He had days to sort things out.   At most he should have only   
   >> > ventured away from the car to increase the visibility to potential   
   >> > searchers (you know, the HELP or SOS in the snow) or to start a fire.   
   >>   
   >> Both of which (fire and SOS) they did.  If one looks at it as an   
   >> exercise in who was most expendable, that was James Kim. The children's   
   >> survival depended on his wife, so the food had to go to her. From   
   >> photographs of him, he didn't have much fat to burn, so by a week in he   
   >> must have been getting weaker.   
   >>   
   >> Also, they had a map so there is a good chance they had figured out   
   >> where they were.  And, that something must have gone awry with the   
   >> search or they would have been found. (Correctly, because the road they   
   >> were on had been mistakenly "cleared" because of a miscommunication.)   
   >> And, for all they knew, there could be a blizzard the next day.   
   >>   
   >> He did in fact start out walking back up the logging road toward Bear   
   >> Camp Rd. But it does seem to me questionable that - as he told his wife   
   >> - he intended to head back in 5 hours.  He did have a backpack and   
   >> extra clothes with him, which were found spread around along with   
   >> notes, by the searchers. I don't think it was a suicide but otoh, I   
   >> think he intended to stay out there until he either found help or   
   >> keeled over.   
   >>   
   >> In the end, the reason Kati Kim and the children were found as soon as   
   >> they were was one determined private helicopter owner/pilot, on his   
   >> third trip to the scene.  He spotted James Kim's tracks before he found   
   >> the car. Probably, James Kim died about the time his family was   
   >> rescued.  It would be nice to think that at some point the helicopter   
   >> was close enough and he was aware enough to recognize that help was   
   >> arriving.   
   >   
   > Ann, how long before the movie comes out.   seems the movie industry   
   > loves to capitalize on any old tragic event.   you think hollywood will   
   > make anymore 9-11 movies?   
      
   I haven't been to a movie since I moved here.  In part, because there are   
   no 2nd run $1 (probably $2-$3 now) theaters and partly because I'm just   
   not that interested.  I think I'm movied-out.    
      
   > as long as they're the ones around to talk about it after the fact   
   > americans seem to love a good tragedy.   most typical of americans to   
   > explain how they'd dealt with the events had they themselves been in   
   > that movie.  and there always seems to be one movie character who the   
   > arm chair quarterbacks will always point their fat fingers at while   
   > saying "that was a stupid decision."   
      
   I think we also tend to have more confidence in searches than is   
   justified.  It's not unusual for hunters, for example, to find a body in   
   the woods in the fall in an area that was "thoroughly searched" in the   
   spring/summer.  A recent example is the couple who were killed when their   
   car went off I-95 in NC. Someone called in the accident and the location,   
   but whoever looked found nothing.  Later, according to the news reports, a   
   highway worker noticed a damaged sign (?), looked, and found their car.   
      
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