XPost: pdx.general, or.politics   
   From: jrw@aracnet.com   
      
   On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:40:14 -0800, "Ted Mittelstaedt"   
    wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"Paul J. Berg"  wrote in message   
   >news:24253-460803B0-1006@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net...   
   >> `   
   >>   
   >> Permits turn dream into nightmare   
   >> BY CHARLES PORCHIA   
   >> For The Register-Guard   
   >> Published: Sunday, March 25, 2007   
   >>   
   >> When it came time to leave the sheriff's department in Nevada, my wife   
   >> and I looked in Oregon for a place to retire. The summer of 2001 found   
   >   
   >Lemme got this straight.   
   >   
   >The guy bought a house in the rural area WITHOUT a decent workshop.   
      
   Which is hard to believe, up the Mohawk (I grew up there).   
      
   Unless he bought a chunk of split-off property that the previous owner   
   had been using as grazing land--hasn't been much other than hay grown   
   up the Mohawk in the past 20-some years.  It's all been grazing land.   
   Sections of it used to be grown to corn, but that went away a few   
   years back.   
      
   Hmm.  Wonder if the property is above or below Marcola?  Prolly below,   
   all things said.  Prolly on Sunderman Road.  Unless it's the old   
   Hansen place....then it'd be by where Diane Downs shot her kids.   
      
   Or unless it's on Conley Road--in which case--oh geez, if it's that   
   place, then yeah, he *will* get flooded, and bad, and the only housing   
   on the place was a run-down mobile home and a barn ready to collapse.   
      
   Of course, he coulda bought the other property owned by that guy.  In   
   which case, he'd have had a perfectly servicable but ancient dairy   
   barn.   
      
      
   >Seems to me he must have been able to use the lack of the workshop as   
   >a negotiating point with the seller.  There's very few rural properties out   
   >there over 3-4 acres that lack a barn or other space that could be used   
   >as a workshop.  What, do you think the farmers just let their tractors sit   
   >out in the rain?   
   >   
   >So I think he probably got quite a lot knocked off the selling price.  Quite   
   >a lot more than $6,000.  Probably more like $20,000!!!   
      
   Property up in the Mohawk Valley ain't cheap.  Well, maybe the stuff   
   on the submarginal lands near the river.  Which floods.  Frequently.   
      
   (FWIW, my parents bought in 1968 and sold in 1980, with a significant   
   gain on their investment, to the effect of $50k or something like   
   that.  And the subsequent owners let the pasture go to wetland.   
   Wetland is what that Mohawk Valley riverland will go to unless you   
   drain it).   
      
   >So despite the fees, once the structure goes up he's WELL AHEAD in   
   >terms of equity in the property.   
      
   Yeppers.   
      
   >   
   >And, he wants to use this space as a workshop.  Well I know very few   
   >workshops you can have a SLANTED floor in and get anything done.   
   >So he would have to raise one corner of the floor - to get it level - no   
   >matter what.  And he wants to restore a car in this workshop.  How in   
   >blazes is he going to do this without a level concrete floor?  You ever   
   >moved a cherry picker with a 600 pound V8 dangling from the arm   
   >over a gravel floor?   
   >   
   >This is just one more case of someone rich whining about having to pay   
   >some fees.   
      
   Uhhuh.   
      
   There is a road back to Nevada.   
      
   jrw   
      
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