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   "Don Homuth"  wrote in message   
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   > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:19:23 GMT, "Matthew Beasley"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Ted Mittelstaedt"  wrote in message   
   >>news:newscache$90pjfj$x2h1$1@news.ipinc.net...   
   >>   
   >>-snippage-   
   >>   
   >>> So I think he probably got quite a lot knocked off the selling price.   
   >>> Quite   
   >>> a lot more than $6,000.  Probably more like $20,000!!!   
   >>>   
   >>> So despite the fees, once the structure goes up he's WELL AHEAD in   
   >>> terms of equity in the property.   
   >>   
   >>Yep, I bought a place without any outbuildings.  It made buying much   
   >>cheaper, but now I do have to add outbuildings to make the place usable.   
   >   
   > Then you will need a permit to do that.   
      
   Uhh, yeah.  Did I say otherwise?  Permits, construction expenses, & sweat   
   equity.  My point was in agreement with Ted that the savings on the property   
   outweighs the extra expense of putting in the buildings.  Which is why I'm   
   not whining about the fees.  I know I'm coming out ahead.   
      
   >   
   > What you're saying is you didn't research that matter Before you   
   > bought the land.   
      
   Didn't research what?  My proposed outbuilding location is ~25' in elevation   
   above the 100 year floodplain.  The stream is small - so the possibility of   
   ever seeing the stream rise that 25' beyond the 100 year flood plain is just   
   outright unlikely.  I am contending with a 8% slope - and that was dang   
   obvious just looking at the land.  I will have no issues getting a permit to   
   cut down the grade and place the outbuilding at a lower elevation.   Why do   
   I fell confident?  Because I already placed a house at a slightly lower   
   elevation.   
      
   I also know enough to realize that Lane county was one place NOT to buy   
   because of permit fees.   
      
   > ...   
   >>> This is just one more case of someone rich whining about having to pay   
   >>> some fees.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>Agreed.  His whining about the fees doesn't bug me as much as the whining   
   >>about not being allowed to build in a flood plain.  Just because the   
   >>people   
   >>in NO are stupid doesn't mean we should be too.  For $4000 he's avoiding   
   >>being another flood statistic.  Big whoop.  It'd sure be worth it to me.   
   >   
   > People ought not to be (a) allowed to build where the river chooses to   
   > run, even if infrequently, and (b) ought not to get Public Insurance   
   > when or if they do.   
      
   What about the Portland Airport and all of the housing that has sprouted up   
   north of Columbia Blvd. from Delta park to Troutdale?  Regular Columbia   
   river dredging, pump maintenance and dike maintenance are all that keeps   
   that giant stretch of land from going under water on a regular basis.   
      
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