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   Lobby Dosser to David Loftus   
   Re: "Portland's light rail shows transit   
   23 May 08 23:51:14   
   
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   From: lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net   
      
   David Loftus  wrote:   
      
   >   
   > I must say, Lobby, I haven't been impressed by either your logic or   
   > your language. Larry has made easy work of you, and you either can't   
   > admit it or can't even see it.   
      
   Something in the water maybe? Or is it the kool aide?   
      
   >   
   > To get back to the mass transit issue, just consider how much more   
   > miserable all those people who "don't need Max" in Washington County   
   > would be if all their neighbors who do use it regularly were on the   
   > road.   
      
   Their neigbors who do use it would be on the bus. Which is where they   
   were until bus routes got cancelled or changed. Not also that those who   
   live and work in Washington County are not necessarily using the the same   
   roads that those who ride MAX would use. MAX is a strip mall.   
   >   
   > I suspect you'll lack the courage to explain to us just how you made   
   > your money and managed to reach a point where you could retire   
      
   i suspect it is none of your business. It was not theft or selling drugs.   
      
   > -- a   
   > luxury many of your peers and most of those who will come after you   
   > may not be in a position to enjoy   
      
   Sure they will. Work hard and smart and invest.   
      
   > -- but I can guarantee that if you   
   > did, Larry and I would be happy to tell you the role that government   
   > played in helping you get there . . . a government that was created   
   > and supported by other citizens who preceded you, some of whom thought   
   > they were as ill-served by their taxes as you.   
      
   Caldwell's confusion seems to be infectious. I have, in fact, actively   
   campaigned for local bond issues (especially schools) and voted for tax   
   increases. I am very pleased with the level of service in Beaverton and,   
   to a lesser degree, with that in Washington County. Metro, however, is a   
   bloated boondogle controlled primarily by Portland And Portland seems to   
   be the sick man of the west coast.   
      
   >   
   > For comparison, do try studying the levels of taxes most European   
   > citizens pay, the cost of their gasoline, and the public benefits many   
   > -- though certainly not all -- of them enjoy.   
      
   I really don't care what the Europeans pay. I don't live in Europe.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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