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|    RichTravsky to Joe Cooper    |
|    Re: Oregon bakery that refused to make g    |
|    03 Sep 13 20:46:29    |
      XPost: soc.culture.usa, alt.politics.liberalism, alt.society.liberalism       XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.republican       From: traRvEskyMOVE@hotmail.com              Joe Cooper wrote:       > Is this a case of religious freedom? Or unlawful discrimination?       > The state of Oregon says if you run a business, you've got to serve gays       > even it goes against your religious principles. So when a gay couple       > wanted to order a wedding cake from Sweet Cakes bakery, the owner, a       > devout Christian, refused.       >       > The couple sued and the Oregon state Bureau of Labor and Industries,       > after conducting an investigation, ruled that the bakery had to serve the       > gay couple.       >       > Welcome to America in 2013:       >       > On Aug. 14, Oregon's state Bureau of Labor and Industries reported       > its investigation to determine if Sweet Cakes' actions violated the       > Oregon Equality Act of 2007, which states that people cannot be denied       > service based on sexual orientation. The law provides an exemption for       > schools and religious groups, but not for private businesses, according       > to a BOLI news release.       >       > Since 2007, Oregonians have filed 11 complaints of unlawful       > discrimination in public places under the 2007 equality law. BOLI found       > no substantial evidence in five of those complaints but parties       > negotiated settlements in three other cases, including one this past week       > where a bar was fined $400K for keeping transgenders away.       >       > The Sweet Cakes case is still being reviewed by BOLI investigators       > as of Aug. 30.       >       > A note on the shop's Gresham door Sunday said the following:       >       > "This fight is not over. We will continue to stand strong. Your       > Religious Freedom is becoming not Free anymore. This is ridiculous that       > we can not practice our faith. The LORD is good and we will continue to       > serve Him with all our heart. ?"       >       > Note that the bakery owner is not being charged with refusing to serve       > gay people, but is accused of refusing to take a contract for a wedding              It most certainly is a case of refusing to serve. No religious freedom       issue at all.              > cake - a wedding that they see as illegitimate regardless of what the law       > says.       >       > If a gay couple came into the store and wanted to buy some donuts or       > bread, and were refused service, that is what the law was supposed to       > prevent. But that's not the case here and this unilateral expansion of       > the definition of the law infringes on the religious freedom of the       > owner.       >       > Not that Oregonian authorities care much because some freedoms are freer       > than others.       >       > Source:       > http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/09/oregon_bakery_that_refused_to       > _make_gay_wedding_cake_closes_its_store.html              What next? Refusing to serve blacks because of some bullcrap aboutthe Mark       of Cain or something?              Your kind would like that.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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