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   XPost: alt.native, soc.culture.native, alt.religion.shamanism   
   XPost: bc.general, alt.culture.alaska   
   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   The Haida Raven and the First Men figure popthrough   
   was applied at 0424 UTC Dec. 5.   
      
   It was a 14-years-low-years one, like Moses, Mohammed,   
   and Rama (Jacob’s was the only human 18-years-low-years).   
   So it included evolution (but not to the point of creating a   
   new species) of humans in the original region.   
      
   It does not affect just followers of indigenous spirituality---it   
   affects some by belief, but also all those now in his original   
   region and all those descended from at least one who was   
   in his original region when his original working became fully on.   
      
   However if it is a non-belief popthrough for someone, it   
   will be overridden by a belief popthrough if there is a   
   conflict (e.g. the Jesus popthrough which is yet to come).   
      
   Since I am only considering popthroughs of the last   
   10,000 years, he must have existed in human   
   form within that time period.   
      
   There is more background on my Salmon on the Thorns   
   web page, though it is not quite up to date, and more   
   on recent and ongoing progress on alt.religion.druid .   
      
   --   
   David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)   
   https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   “And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the   
   hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)