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From: robert@no.way
On Sep 11, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
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> Robert on Fri, 24 May 2024 00:05:05 -0700 typed in
> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
> > On May 23, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
> > > Robert on Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:59:55 -0800 typed in
> > > alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
> > > > On Feb 15, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
> > > > > Robert on Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:36:56 -0800 typed in
> > > > > > On Feb 13, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
> > > > > > > Robert on Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:37:23 -0800 typed
in
> > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 2024, James wrote
> > > > > > > > > Thus, God created all things THROUGH Jesus. But how did
Jesus come to
> > > > > > > > > exist:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Simple, God created Jesus first. A direct creation; God to
Jesus:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You have no proof to that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Neither does Robert.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course not, since the Word of God does not teach it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Really?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 Corinthians 8:5–6 5: "For though there be that are called gods,
> > > > > whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords
> > > > > many,) 6 but to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all
> > > > > things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all
> > > > > things, and we by him."
> > > > >
> > > > > Proverbs chapter 8:22 The LORD made me as the beginning of His way,
> > > > > the first of His works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from
> > > > > the beginning, or ever the earth was. 24 When there were no depths, I
> > > > > was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
> > > > > 25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought
> > > > > forth;
> > > > >
> > > > > Isaiah 46:0 Remember the former things of old:
> > > > > for I am God, and there is none else;
> > > > > I am God, and there is none like me,
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems to me that an argument can be made that there is scriptural
> > > > > support for the idea.
> > > >
> > > > Not one of those verses even comes close to supporting your false
> > > > ideation.
> > >
> > > Robert, Robert, once again you are declaring something false on
> > > your own limited recognizance.
> >
> > The first verse you post said that Jesus created all things. The next group
> > of scripture spoke not of creation of Jesus.
> > Possessed does not mean create, unless you are arian, Since the Hebrew verb
> > does not mean "create," as an examination of its occurrences and renderings
> > will show, this text does not furnish evidence to support the notion that
> > Jesus Christ is, in his pre-incarnate nature, a created being.
>
> Yes, and? These are verses which have been, and are proclaimed by
> teachers, preachers and evangelists to be proof that Jesus was not
> co-eternal with the Father.
Then it is up to you to hold them accountable for their errors.
Do you not know that Jesus is Yehovah? YahWeh?
Have you not read the chapter 8 of proverbs and recognize that it was
speaking of Wisdom?
>
>
> You'll have to take it up with those appointed teachers,
> preachers, and evangelists who have The True Understanding of the
> Scriptures.
Who appointed them? And how would you know who has the “True
Understanding” when you admit that you do not know of it. Who or what is
your “guiding light”? And I do not speak that sarcastically.
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Those scripture are there, and they have been quoted by those who
> > > like you do not believe that Jesus is the incarnations of the Eternal
> > > Word of God.
> >
> > As usual you err.
>
> Ah, so now you are saying that previous occasions when you were
> touting some form of adoptionism were in error.
Adoptionism of what? Qualify your term. Did you not misunderstand Proverbs
8:22? And mismatch them with those of Isaiah?
>
> tschus
> pyotr
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