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   someone to kazu   
   Re: A Koan for our atheist friends   
   11 Oct 24 06:47:28   
   
   XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.bu   
   dha.short.fat.guy   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: being@apolka.sign   
      
   kazu wrote:   
   >Creon wrote:   
   >> Venus as a boy wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Nothing will come from nothing   
   >>   
   >> Where does that come from?   
   >> ... snip ...   
   >> Clearly, he doesn't understand quantum virtual particles...   
   >>   
   >> Do you?   
   >   
   >i wouldnt say they come out of nothing.   
      
   Some theists might insist their deity creates ad nihilo   
   while other theists may suggest creatio ad materia   
   is what is used in the beginning to generate what   
   gets generated generation after regeneration.   
      
   Koans could be used to stop an intellect   
   from doing what it does naturally.   
      
   A question may emerge in terms of words.   
      
   Does an abstract noun, e.g., everything,   
   Being, Existence or the Universe, exist   
   when not reified nor set in cement.   
      
   How nebulous was the world   
   before it formed as it formed   
   given a mind sigh sailing to see.   
      
   QFTs, using mathematical languages,   
   might be able to graph a wave as it functions   
   to produce what appears to be a point in particular.   
      
   When not doing an experiment to find   
   any points generated when doing   
   a thing experimentally could be   
   a non-starter thing not beginning   
   which reminds one of the Chuang-tzu.   
      
   Beyond Cartesian modes of thought,   
   when not thinking whether some body, any   
   body exists is probably not a question pertaining   
   to obtaining much traction sewing two speak.   
      
   - thanx! Cheers!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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