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|    kazu to someone    |
|    Re: A Koan for our atheist friends    |
|    11 Oct 24 17:14:20    |
      XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.bu       dha.short.fat.guy       XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen       From: f00@0f0.00f              someone wrote:       > kazu wrote:       >> Creon wrote:       >>> Venus as a boy wrote:       >>>       >>>> Nothing will come from nothing       >>>       >>> Where does that come from?       >>> ... snip ...       >>> Clearly, he doesn't understand quantum virtual particles...       >>>       >>> Do you?       >>       >> i wouldnt say they come out of nothing.       >       > Some theists might insist their deity creates ad nihilo       > while other theists may suggest creatio ad materia       > is what is used in the beginning to generate what       > gets generated generation after regeneration.       >       > Koans could be used to stop an intellect       > from doing what it does naturally.       >       > A question may emerge in terms of words.       >       > Does an abstract noun, e.g., everything,       > Being, Existence or the Universe, exist       > when not reified nor set in cement.       >       > How nebulous was the world       > before it formed as it formed       > given a mind sigh sailing to see.       >       > QFTs, using mathematical languages,       > might be able to graph a wave as it functions       > to produce what appears to be a point in particular.       >       > When not doing an experiment to find       > any points generated when doing       > a thing experimentally could be       > a non-starter thing not beginning       > which reminds one of the Chuang-tzu.       >       > Beyond Cartesian modes of thought,       > when not thinking whether some body, any       > body exists is probably not a question pertaining       > to obtaining much traction sewing two speak.       >       > - thanx! Cheers!       >                     hmm.. you know honestly i cant seem to follow what you are trying       to get at?              if we are talking about concepts, meaning and language taking       precedence, then i have some reading to catch up on because i       dont know the details of those arguments.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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