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   kazu to someone   
   Re: A Koan for our atheist friends   
   11 Oct 24 17:14:20   
   
   XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia, alt.bu   
   dha.short.fat.guy   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   someone wrote:   
   > kazu wrote:   
   >> Creon wrote:   
   >>> Venus as a boy wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Nothing will come from nothing   
   >>>   
   >>> Where does that come from?   
   >>> ... snip ...   
   >>> Clearly, he doesn't understand quantum virtual particles...   
   >>>   
   >>> Do you?   
   >>   
   >> i wouldnt say they come out of nothing.   
   >   
   > Some theists might insist their deity creates ad nihilo   
   > while other theists may suggest creatio ad materia   
   > is what is used in the beginning to generate what   
   > gets generated generation after regeneration.   
   >   
   > Koans could be used to stop an intellect   
   > from doing what it does naturally.   
   >   
   > A question may emerge in terms of words.   
   >   
   > Does an abstract noun, e.g., everything,   
   > Being, Existence or the Universe, exist   
   > when not reified nor set in cement.   
   >   
   > How nebulous was the world   
   > before it formed as it formed   
   > given a mind sigh sailing to see.   
   >   
   > QFTs, using mathematical languages,   
   > might be able to graph a wave as it functions   
   > to produce what appears to be a point in particular.   
   >   
   > When not doing an experiment to find   
   > any points generated when doing   
   > a thing experimentally could be   
   > a non-starter thing not beginning   
   > which reminds one of the Chuang-tzu.   
   >   
   > Beyond Cartesian modes of thought,   
   > when not thinking whether some body, any   
   > body exists is probably not a question pertaining   
   > to obtaining much traction sewing two speak.   
   >   
   > - thanx! Cheers!   
   >   
      
      
   hmm.. you know honestly i cant seem to follow what you are trying   
   to get at?   
      
   if we are talking about concepts, meaning and language taking   
   precedence, then i have some reading to catch up on because i   
   dont know the details of those arguments.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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